Strike the Blood (light novel)
| So I read some of the spoilers on the wiki, and apparently the 4th progenitor was actually created by the other 3 and the devas to fight the approach of some entity called cain. Incidentally Asagi is also connected with this individual. Despite this info, there wasn't even a entry for the individual, so my question is, who is Cain? My guess is that they go the Vampire Masquerade route and that Cain is a. the first and most powerful vamp, and b. is Cain from the Bible, aka Cain and Abel. Also side question, is the 4th really the strongest? I mean the other 3 made him/her to fight someone they clearly think is strong, but each Progenitor has more familiars than the 4th, with the Lost Warlord having as many as 72. |
Edon613 said: Kojou's familiars can curb stomp all the other Progenitor's one on one if he were to use his full power. Just because they have more doesn't mean they're stronger, remember, quality over quantity. The Lost Warlord has 72 because he needs 72, whereas Kojou only needs 12. Though, of course, that's just my speculation and is not in any way correct. Cain is only rumored to exist, I don't think it's ever been said that he does. Though that's just from what I know and this is second-hand knowledge, since I haven't read the novels. That is what I thought. I mean Koujo has basically control over all elements, plus a reality warping, time control, etc. So I agree they are probably better one on one. But I do disagree with one thing. I think the Lost Warlord is the strongest of the 3, and his 72 are legit. Also apparently ln states that the 3 progen knew of Cain, and Asagi is his priestess so he or she has to exist. |
Cain has already being foreshadowed few times in the anime~ ep.12....Yaze and Kensei's conversation, ep.18....Yukina and Vatler's conversation. |
| "There is no sorrow if you are prepared" |
Fritzion said: Cain has already being foreshadowed few times in the anime~ ep.12....Yaze and Kensei's conversation, ep.18....Yukina and Vatler's conversation. In Vampire lore just as Fritzion mentioned, Cain's curse for the first murder in time by a human (not counting God) is punishment as a "fugitive and wanderer".Cain's curse involves receiving a mark from God, commonly referred to as the mark of Cain.This mark serves as God's promise to Cain for divine protection from premature death, with the stated purpose to prevent anyone from killing him. It is not known what the mark is, but it is assumed that the mark is visible. Some people believe Cain is the son of the Devil or a Fallen Angel as well. He created the first three vampires, from which came all the other vampires of the world. So maybe Progenitor 1,2,3? |
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Vooo said: Fritzion said: Cain has already being foreshadowed few times in the anime~ ep.12....Yaze and Kensei's conversation, ep.18....Yukina and Vatler's conversation. In Vampire lore just as Fritzion mentioned, Cain's curse for the first murder in time by a human (not counting God) is punishment as a "fugitive and wanderer".Cain's curse involves receiving a mark from God, commonly referred to as the mark of Cain.This mark serves as God's promise to Cain for divine protection from premature death, with the stated purpose to prevent anyone from killing him. It is not known what the mark is, but it is assumed that the mark is visible. Some people believe Cain is the son of the Devil or a Fallen Angel as well. He created the first three vampires, from which came all the other vampires of the world. So maybe Progenitor 1,2,3? Lol so Strike basically goes the Vampire the Masquerade route. Its an interesting one, though we also have had the first Vamp as Judas and as Vlad. And then we had Lilith as the first demon/witch. I hope we get a sequel because I don't think we will get far enough in the first 24 eps to even show Cain, let alone any of the progens. I mean it took almost the entire series before they showed a vampire related to someone other than the warlord, let alone an actual progen. Btw can someone clarify something. Valter is he a biological relation or is he descended from the first through vampirism. Same thing with the other guys. I got the impress that Valter was actually like grandson or something of his, while the rest of his "family" were through vamprism, which would also explain why he is that strong. |
krownklown said: Vooo said: Fritzion said: Cain has already being foreshadowed few times in the anime~ ep.12....Yaze and Kensei's conversation, ep.18....Yukina and Vatler's conversation. In Vampire lore just as Fritzion mentioned, Cain's curse for the first murder in time by a human (not counting God) is punishment as a "fugitive and wanderer".Cain's curse involves receiving a mark from God, commonly referred to as the mark of Cain.This mark serves as God's promise to Cain for divine protection from premature death, with the stated purpose to prevent anyone from killing him. It is not known what the mark is, but it is assumed that the mark is visible. Some people believe Cain is the son of the Devil or a Fallen Angel as well. He created the first three vampires, from which came all the other vampires of the world. So maybe Progenitor 1,2,3? Lol so Strike basically goes the Vampire the Masquerade route. Its an interesting one, though we also have had the first Vamp as Judas and as Vlad. And then we had Lilith as the first demon/witch. I hope we get a sequel because I don't think we will get far enough in the first 24 eps to even show Cain, let alone any of the progens. I mean it took almost the entire series before they showed a vampire related to someone other than the warlord, let alone an actual progen. Btw can someone clarify something. Valter is he a biological relation or is he descended from the first through vampirism. Same thing with the other guys. I got the impress that Valter was actually like grandson or something of his, while the rest of his "family" were through vamprism, which would also explain why he is that strong. Vatler is a direct descendant of the lost warlord/first primogenitor, maybe grandson or great grandson and so on. primogenitor - anscestor/father of vampire direct descendant - born from the primogenitor's lineage 2nd generation - former human turned into a vampire through vampirism by a primogenitor |
| "There is no sorrow if you are prepared" |
Fritzion said: krownklown said: Vooo said: Fritzion said: Cain has already being foreshadowed few times in the anime~ ep.12....Yaze and Kensei's conversation, ep.18....Yukina and Vatler's conversation. In Vampire lore just as Fritzion mentioned, Cain's curse for the first murder in time by a human (not counting God) is punishment as a "fugitive and wanderer".Cain's curse involves receiving a mark from God, commonly referred to as the mark of Cain.This mark serves as God's promise to Cain for divine protection from premature death, with the stated purpose to prevent anyone from killing him. It is not known what the mark is, but it is assumed that the mark is visible. Some people believe Cain is the son of the Devil or a Fallen Angel as well. He created the first three vampires, from which came all the other vampires of the world. So maybe Progenitor 1,2,3? Lol so Strike basically goes the Vampire the Masquerade route. Its an interesting one, though we also have had the first Vamp as Judas and as Vlad. And then we had Lilith as the first demon/witch. I hope we get a sequel because I don't think we will get far enough in the first 24 eps to even show Cain, let alone any of the progens. I mean it took almost the entire series before they showed a vampire related to someone other than the warlord, let alone an actual progen. Btw can someone clarify something. Valter is he a biological relation or is he descended from the first through vampirism. Same thing with the other guys. I got the impress that Valter was actually like grandson or something of his, while the rest of his "family" were through vamprism, which would also explain why he is that strong. Vatler is a direct descendant of the lost warlord/first primogenitor, maybe grandson or great grandson and so on. primogenitor - anscestor/father of vampire direct descendant - born from the primogenitor's lineage 2nd generation - former human turned into a vampire through vampirism by a primogenitor cool thanks for the clarification. |
krownklown said: Fritzion said: krownklown said: Btw can someone clarify something. Valter is he a biological relation or is he descended from the first through vampirism. Same thing with the other guys. I got the impress that Valter was actually like grandson or something of his, while the rest of his "family" were through vamprism, which would also explain why he is that strong. Vatler is a direct descendant of the lost warlord/first primogenitor, maybe grandson or great grandson and so on. primogenitor - ancestor/father of vampire direct descendant - born from the primogenitor's lineage 2nd generation - former human turned into a vampire through vampirism by a primogenitor cool thanks for the clarification. In strike the blood, primogenitors defy some rules about vampires. Normally a child of a vampire and a human will be called a dhampir~ half human/vampire but in strike the blood, if the vampire is a primogenitor their child will be a pure-blood vampire. |
| "There is no sorrow if you are prepared" |
| Oh I read some good info here :D not even sure will we even get the chance to see him though. |
ShanaFlameMar 29, 2014 10:17 PM
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| hopefully baka tsuki will update the light novel faster, so even if we get no sequel, we at least can read it. |
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