Manami is the true Villain in Oreimo

Vodkas said:
She's right incest is straight up creepy. I can't imagine being in love with my sibling.

Romedbaumann said:
Incest itself is only wrong because the chance of a child, born from incest, having disabilities, is far higher then normal.

It happened very often in the Middle Ages because people just didn't know about that.

singleturbo said:
Why do people blame Manami? I think the point of her involvement is being missed here, as she really has little to do with what happened.

We see that Kirino worshiped her older brother like any little kid, so that is normal. Kyou was a little kid who played with his sister all the time and who went out and did a bunch of things, also normal. So what happened? Kyou became a teenager that's what happened.

As Kyou got older he started to want to go do things without his little sister tagging along. You can see the start of this when he stopped wanting to take baths with Kirino and started to avoid her when going out. Later you see him being lazy and apparently not doing anything, which is also perfectly normal for a teenager. Kyou was simply in his "pre-teen to teenager" phase but to Kirino she had lost her idol. Deep down nothing had really changed though, he still loved his sister.

All Manami did was tell Kirino that, NO she isn't "giving him back" since she obviously wants to hang out with him, plus Kyou is still the same person he always was. Telling her that she was being creepy might have been a little harsh, but heck she was a teenage girl confronting an overreacting Kirino.

In other words Manami is no evil mastermind. She can still get flack for her not being nice to Kirino, but it wasn't THAT big of a deal IMO. Honestly that bad side of her isn't any worse than the bad sides of Ayase or Kirino.

ManamiAPoop said:
Picture Manami half-naked, running down an abandoned city street at night. Tears are running down he face as she gasps and sobs. You hear an odd noise, quiet at first, barely there but soon it becomes louder. Squeaking. Constant squeaking from multiple sources. Then they come around the corner.

Clowns. A dozen of them, Their shoes making loud squeaking and honking noises, their painted on smiles only slightly larger than the real smiles they have on their faces. Manami is barefoot and is quickly caught and surrounded by these painted up attackers.

Before she can cry out, a balloon giraffe is shoved down her throat as several clowns take out their own balloons and begin putting them onto their throbbing erections. She's bent over by one of the clowns while two others come at her from front and behind. They quickly penetrate her and begin honking their horns in rhythm with their thrusts while idle clowns perform somersaults and pratfalls as they wait their turns with her.

The honking begins to speed up as the clowns near orgasm and increase the rate of their thrusting. Shortly after, they all pull out of her and ejaculate into their balloons. They quickly remove them, blow them up and make them into different animals as the other clowns move in to take their turns.

This goes on for nearly two hours. Manami is exhausted and bruised, trembling from the cold and trauma. Most of the clowns have left, save one final clown fucking her throat raw. He pulls his cock out and blows his load all over her face, then stands back to admire his handiwork.

She looks up at him, tears in her red eyes and tries to talk.

He hits her in the face with a pie.

ryshin said:
you should read LN dude.... She is reasonable, Manami is a good girl

ThisIsDK said:


The LN makes her look even worse.

ryshin said:


nope...

ThisIsDK said:


The LN makes her look even worse.

tsudecimo said:

nope...

Takuan_Soho said:


Depends on your definition of "far higher". The best guess is that incest increases the likelihood of some birth defect from the average of 3.3% to around 5%, which is about as bad as smoking during pregnancy appears to be. Whether this warrants the state imposing a law to forbid it is a different matter.

The problem though is remarkably little research has been done on defects in general. This may come as a surprise to people, but the first comprehensive study that really linked smoking to birth defects was only completed in 2011 (nearly 40 years after the campaign linking the two started), but even this study has some serious methodology issues with it (the first being the obvious bias of the authors). The research on incest is even more sketchy.

The problem with incest is when it occurs between generations. Then most of the relationships are not equal, either due to age/dependence/ or a host of other factors, and the question of consent enters into the picture. This is even a question when it is an older sibling/younger sibling.

In the past however consent was never an issue, neither for that matter was genetics. The reason incest became taboo as I pointed out above was because incest tied up valuable familial assets. Marriage formed alliances, it was preferable to form alliances with people who were not too close to the family because in times of droughts or famine, having a network in a neighboring region that wasn't suffering the same became a very valuable survival tool. There was nothing to gain from incest.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2011/jul/12/birth-defects-linked-smoking-pregnancy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbreeding said:

Inbreeding is reproduction from the mating of parents who are closely related genetically.[1] Inbreeding results in increased homozygosity, which can increase the chances of offspring being affected by recessive or deleterious traits.[2] This generally leads to a decreased fitness of a population,[3][4] which is called inbreeding depression. An individual who results from inbreeding is referred to as inbred. The avoidance of expression of deleterious recessive alleles caused by inbreeding is thought to be the main selective force maintaining the outcrossing aspect of sexual reproduction.[5][6] (See also Inbreeding depression.)

tsudecimo said:
Still nope, she is a hero of justice if anything.

tsudecimo said:
100+ posts, objective completed. You can stop your little flame war now.

ThisIsDK said:


You made the thread to start a shitstorm.

Zmffkskem said:


No matter how true your argument is, incest is inbreeding. If we are to follow modern evolutionary theory, that is bad.



Of course, it is to be noted that every sentence suggests possibility, but modern theory is that a self-contained gene pool is bad for adaptation(i.e. survival X years into the future)

Honestly speaking though, at its current rate incest is not extremely significant. A rate less than 5% is, under any absolute terms, very low although the rate is considered high in biology(at least in terms of 'increased susceptibilities')

I suppose, evolutionary theory is a multi-generational(>10,000 years?) thing, so no one now needs to care more about this than CO2 400.

Kryoburn said:
I never ever though manami would be evil...

sim0n2170 said:
My mind has just got blown away, knew there was something fishy about her

Ghost-Lightning said:


that is why Ayase played the Yandere route that time....

Luismac023 said:
indeed she was a bitch,

there is a lot discussion about been in love with siblings or inbreeding, my opinion in this matter is let them be, I respect other opinions, back in the past it was consider an honor to marry your brother or sister, Cleopatra was married to 2 of her young brothers. In my country its so tabbo that they blame down syndrome on inbreeding.