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| Lots of information this time. I guess it was more or less true to original but Archer's introduction was done little bit differently in VN as this series is mix of all three routes. |
| What a 8th one ? 0.o I could have guessed that his father was the last ... I wonder what will happen next Lets find it out |
| Since I saw Fate/Zero before this I knew this, But still, FUCK YES, GILGAMESH! |
"You either die an Ashita no Joe, or you live long enough to see yourself become a Naruto."  |
| For a moment I thought that guy was the master of Lancer, since Lancer is still around somewhere. But he's another archer servant? Don't know if I like that twist, let's see how this continues. |
| wow the previous archer appeared somethings that were said in this episode were pretty inaccurate compared to what happened in fate/zero. |
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| For some reason the feels hit when Caster died... |
| “Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is alchemy's first law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth. But the world isn't perfect, and the law is incomplete..." -Alphonse Elric "Then and now, what I protect has never changed!" -Sakata Gintoki I'll take anything like The Pet Girl of Sakurasou. Anything as good as that. |
| Decent sword fight . "To have something to protect." Imminent Adversary . The Fulfillment of Desires . VERY GREAT EPISODE . The Truth about the Holy Grail . |
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| That Shirou's father was Mother Saber's previous master, was obvious. So he caused the fire back then. That will give Shirou a lot to think about. Gilgamesh makes his appearance and wants to marry Mother Saber. No way, you glittering douchebag. How he finished Caster and the teacher was cool though. |
| You're a louse, Roger Smith. - R. Dorothy Wayneright This is my fight! No Senpai, this is our fight! - Kojou Akatsuki & Yukina Himeragi  |
| So the super secret servant in pee stained armor is Gilgamesh? I didn't know that before I came here. I'm glad I do now. 5 more episodes to go.... and counting. It's not even so bad it's good at this point. What a waste of a good concept. |
Big revelation time. Looks like Emiya sr. was some unscrupulous man before a change of heart, he probably try to redeem himself through the adoption. What was this destruction of the Grail for? To end all the wars? Some kind of "ksacrifice a few ones to save the majority"? Gilgamesh is... ugly. Infinite supplies of weapons seem to be the coolest thing around in this universe. It's weird that the Assassin was counted in the Servants limit. Why is Medea represented as some kind of elf? o_O "Half-breed"? 3/5 The nice part was the parallel between the adult pair and the heroes one. Now, if the Master of the Lancer was polite enough to introduce himself? Unless it's the gloomy priest? (looks more like he is with Gilgamesh) @christoff522 If I understood it right, the Servants won't "die" (they're basically already dead), they will just disappear from reality once the competition/ritual/battle royale will end. Saber/Aruria is special (absolutely no idea why since I simply watched this series and consulted nothing else) in the kind of Servant she is: she is actually not "dead" but summoned from the Middle-Age, right before she died. Thus, she would indeed "go back" after the events end. I didn't like the show but I must say in its defense that I can't imagine how messier it would have been if they bother to include even more side informations in the TV series. Zero is based on a "spin-off" product (a novel) written by yet another person, so you can expect a few incoherencies, I suppose. |
Rei_IIIJul 16, 2017 7:56 AM
| That was a massive case of Deus Ex Machina with that 8th servant suddenly showing up to rescue them. |
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| Gilgamish <3 that was cooool |
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| the deaths in this are so underwhelming... it feels like the battles end just before they get good. this is some bad writing, the outcome never matches the buildup. ); argh, am i the only one who hates gilgamesh? |
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| What a mess... everything is blending so much that I'm not even sure whats going on anymore. |
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MahoMaho88 said: Also now apparently Saber has her memories from the previous war, and isn't a complete servant ... what? stuff that was skipped from the "porn game": https://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/Update%2087/ the short version is: before Saber's death on the hill of Camlann in her original life, she made a pact with the world, in exchange for obtaining the grail eventually, she can be summoned as a servant. now saber is frozen in time at the hill of camlann, since she isn't dead yet, she isn't a complete heroic spirit nor a complete servant, and she won't die before she obtains the grail. MahoMaho88 said: They aren't the actual people they represent, they don't die, they just go back in their Grail dimension and wait for the next war, or smt. That is what the show was saying all this time. Heroic Spirits are made up of those who actually existed, those only from the legends/myths, and those who never became known about they are beings that exist in the Throne of Heroes, which exists outside of the world and outside of time, they don't solely exist for the purpose of fighting in the grail war. but rather, the fuyuki grail is just one thing that can summon them into this world, it creates a copy of the heroic spirit in the throne, and summons that copy into one the 7 servant classes, which act as a vessel to contain the heroic spirit's power. MahoMaho88 said: now Saber isn't actually a "complete" servant, recalls her past memory she didn't recall it now, she's been hiding the fact that she participated in the previous war because there was no need to mention it, until now. Shirou looks up to Kiritsugu, while she, having seen how Kiritsugu acted during the previous grail war, had a very different opinion about him. before this episode, mentioning what happened in the past wasn't going to help them in anyway, but was likely to do more harm than good for their relationship MahoMaho88 said: and will die if she gets the grail, she just wants to die btw. no? she wants to obtain the grail so that she can make her own wish come true? MahoMaho88 said: Bullshit is made out on the spot, and this death game ain't even fair. For example, Rule Breaker was a thing. Rule breaker is an anti-magic noble phantasm, it can dispel or destroy magic that it comes into contact with. the object that it pierces will go back to a state before magic was used on it, contracts made with magic (such as the master-servant contract) or beings created with magic will go back to a state before their creation. there is a limit to what it can do though, it can't destroy a servant or a noble phantasm for example, as for Caster using it to nullify Excalibur, that's just anime-original bullshit, in the VN, she only tries to use it to sever the master-servant contract between shirou and saber just because it's called "Rule Breaker" doesn't mean you should take the name literally |
yes, exactly, there is a reason why a lot of VN readers recommend against watching this anime specifically FSN VN isn't flawless, but unfortunately a good adaptation for it doesn't exist yet, i personally don't consider ufo's adaptations good either |
| In the end that teacher saved her and decided to help her out of nothing. The part where he said he's a cold blooded killer need more explanation. Oh well he's dead anyway if he's still alive he will be fired anyway. I guess the definiton of Archer has been corrupted by Fate. Kiritsugu objective was to destroy the Holy Grail. To end the Holy Grail War I guess. |
| He who smiles in a crisis has found someone to blame. |
| assasin died ... Caster also dies....that appearnce of gilgamesh though |
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| That golden king should really strong. New problem incoming. |
| ok rn i kinda regret watching this first before fate zero like i got fucking spoiled now when i watch fate zero i would know the outcome. |
-Atsuhi- said: now when i watch fate zero i would know the outcome. It's done on purpose. You are a fan of the Monogatari Series , so you should already know how Prequels works. |
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| Great episode!!! Gil finally!!!!! He's so cool. -Atsuhi- said: ok rn i kinda regret watching this first before fate zero like i got fucking spoiled now when i watch fate zero i would know the outcome. You're meant to watch this before Fate/Zero. That's the point; you're supposed to already know how the ending turns out. Watching Zero first would have spoiled much more for F/SN than F/SN spoils for Zero. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
Zach-chanMar 6, 2022 12:32 PM
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Nurularifin said: wait a second! did I just get spoiled for fate/zero ending?? Yep. Since Zero is a Prequel , it takes elements present in the original story (2006 Anime , UBW & HF) , and makes its "own story" with it. Since it's intented by the Authors , we can't call that a spoil tho. |
"Genius lives only one storey above madness." – Arthur Schopenhauer. "Stupidity is a talent for misconception." – Edgar Allan Poe. "I'm tired... and hungry." – Alexioos95. |
| damn, this episode was straightforward full of twists, and also questions. why is rin not dead? i thought she were killed in that attack. not that i'm complaining, the opposite is the truth :P |
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