| @Immahnoob >It's almost as if you've only seen about 3 volumes of a still on-going series. Yeah sorry for talking about "anime adaptation" without having additional knowledge from unadapted material...Phew, my bad >You can't even properly describe the character you're comparing him to or his situation, wow. that is so rich coming from a dude who didnt even saw the other character we are comparing Ayanokouji with >At least you tried. It's again, too bad I don't know the show you're talking about, but by your description, I can objectively state that Ayanokouji is the same. Dude seriously, why are you here in this thread then? Are you still unable to grasp this thread is about comparing 2 characters? You are derailing the thread... You can take two sides here: Ayanokouji and Hachiman are similar or they are different...This is not a thread about explaining how great Ayanokouji is, if you want to teach people why he is so great and how we are missing the point, you can make a new thread about it... |
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| @LoneWizzy Yeah sorry for talking about "anime adaptation" without having additional knowledge from unadapted material...Phew, my bad It is your bad, if you think you can somehow expect for an ending when you haven't seen the whole story, then it's clear you yourself don't know the criticisms anime fans of all nationalities and ages tend to throw at "original endings". Why are you even talking at this point?Why would you expect a climax, a resolution or whatever when it's not done? Don't you understand that criticism needs to be imparted while taking into consideration what exactly is the objective of what you're criticizing? Would you say that something revolting is wrong if that was the point of it in the first place? No? Then why would you criticize an anime for not ending when the LN didn't when the purpose was to only adapt part of the LN? that is so rich coming from a dude who didnt even saw the other character we are comparing Ayanokouji with  You tried. Here, let me give you a similar example to your "description". Both characters are male. Clearly, they're equal to one another now. Praise me. Dude seriously, why are you here in this thread then? Are you still unable to grasp this thread is about comparing 2 characters? You are derailing the thread... Hm? Am I? I thought you clearly said this is about comparing two characters that seem similar.The OP clearly said that one aspect of the character he's comparing to Ayanokouji tends to be described as awesome by his actions, which is the same case for Ayanokouji. Or are you saying the OP is wrong? Are you also saying that the author of this LN is wrong about what they created themselves? You can take two sides here: Ayanokouji and Hachiman are similar or they are different... And I'm telling you that you're incapable of taking any of the two sides, since you clearly don't know anything about Ayanokouji, otherwise your criticism of him wouldn't be wrong.This is not a thread about explaining how great Ayanokouji is I'm sorry, are you sure you're in the right thread? How else would you know if two characters are the same if you don't describe their characteristics?I also believe I didn't once mention how "awesome" he is until the OP and another poster here (which you seem to be OK with) did so. And if the OP mentioned it, I believe that your accusations of "derailing" are unfounded. Maybe you should stop derailing this thread by trying to shoehorn "rule issues" here, did you know that concern moderation is also against the rules? Fuck off. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| @Immahnoob >And I'm telling you that you're incapable of taking any of the two sides, since you clearly don't know anything about Ayanokouji, otherwise your criticism of him wouldn't be wrong. Dude are you even realising what you are saying? Everyone here except you saw the two anime in question and comparing characters based on that knowledge...Except you, who have absolutely no idea what we are talking about here and trying to defend Ayanokouji... Even if literally everything you are talking about happens to be facts you are still unable to be part of this discussion because you cant make a comparison without secondhand information about hachiman...I will stop replying to you till you finish Oregairu... Have a nice day... |
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| @LoneWizzy It seems you still don't get it. Repeating what has been debunked won't change anything. Everyone here except you saw the two anime in question and comparing characters based on that knowledge Then I doubt you've actually watched Highschool of the Elite, because if you would have, your criticism of Ayanokouji would be accurate. Since it's not, you cannot compare him to any other characters, until you finally understand what he is about. Otherwise it wouldn't be a comparison between Ayanokouji and Hachiman, right? Even if literally everything you are talking about happens to be facts you are still unable to be part of this discussion because you cant make a comparison without secondhand information about hachiman I don't need to know about Hachiman though, or are you saying the information you, the OP and other posters presented is false?As I said, all I need to know is that you don't know anything about Ayanokouji for me to claim that you're all wrong in comparing him to Hachiman in any way. will stop replying to you till you finish Oregairu... Have a nice day... So you concede? That's OK, it's not like you had any chance whatsoever in understanding my point. I've been repeating it a few times now and they're pretty simple English words used, yet your comprehension is still creating problems for you. So it means that all you can do is run away. Although it's sad that you can't admit to it. Whenever you're ready to actually present an argument, I'm here. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
BlackFIFA19 said: The 2 series aren't even alike in general dont know why people keep comparing these 2 exactly i told my friends watching this anime and tomorrow in the school, my friends be like, "uHuh ThIs AnIMe LIke OrigAIrU oR HyoUKa aNd tHe MC lIke HikIGaYa, tHEy ArE vEry SiMILar, BuT..BUt.. oRiGaiRu iS tHE beST." and thats very friking annoying xD |
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| Lets just say ayanakouji is better haha, because emotions do not cause him to make irrational decisions. |
| ๐๐ฐ ๐ข๐ต๐ต๐ข๐ช๐ฏ ๐ข ๐ค๐ฆ๐ณ๐ต๐ข๐ช๐ฏ ๐ด๐ฐ๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ต๐ฉ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ, ๐ค๐ฆ๐ณ๐ต๐ข๐ช๐ฏ ๐ฆ๐ฎ๐ฐ๐ต๐ช๐ฐ๐ฏ๐ด ๐ฏ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฅ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ฃ๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฆ๐ณ๐ฎ๐ช๐ฏ๐ข๐ต๐ฆ๐ฅ. |
| Just finished the Classroom of the Elite (COTE) in a day and I really liked Ayanakoji. Then I went on to forums to see what other people think, and I found out that people suggest watching Oregairu if you like COTE because MCs are similar. However, I didn't like Oregairu at all and forced myself through the first season. I was wondering why that is the case for me, and then I found this thread. I have to agree that they are not similar at all, and maybe people feel they are similar just because they don't seem to give a shit in general. Anyways, good to know that people do think that they are actually different, and it wasn't just me who didn't understand Hachiman's character/personality. |
Just_A_Bystander said: Yeah they are only similar on the surface level. Hachiman is a weak person who uses his persona as a shield, Ayanakoji uses that persona because he is too powerful and have to nerf himself for the story to work. Just finished the Classroom of the Elite (COTE) in a day and I really liked Ayanakoji. Then I went on to forums to see what other people think, and I found out that people suggest watching Oregairu if you like COTE because MCs are similar. However, I didn't like Oregairu at all and forced myself through the first season. I was wondering why that is the case for me, and then I found this thread. I have to agree that they are not similar at all, and maybe people feel they are similar just because they don't seem to give a shit in general. Anyways, good to know that people do think that they are actually different, and it wasn't just me who didn't understand Hachiman's character/personality. |
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