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Jul 31, 2017 12:49 AM

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So much Jeanne, so much win. She's so adorable. Easily my favorite. <3

Homunculus named himself Seig, I guess that's kind of a fitting name.
Mostly just a setup episode so nothing much to say, something linking Jack is about to go down though.
Jul 31, 2017 12:50 AM
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Kitoge said:
I really want to see how strong Jeanne is. How OP can you get?


Rulers generally have authority over all other servants via command seals. But outside of that, Jeanne wasn't really a fighter in life if u compare to the likes of Artoria, Cu, Herc. I mean she gained her fame in only 2 years, and before that she was just a simple farm girl.


Which begs this question, do ruler class servants gain more stats than regular containers? It confuses me that for a servant like Jeanne, who wasn't really a warrior having B str, A agi and C endurance. In terms of stats, thats basically equal to Cu in FSN. I get that she was summoned in her own country, and that her story is very well known, but to have those stats for who she is in life surprises me. My theory is that they've given additional stats to boost their own survivability since they're a neutral class and their command seals can basically win the holy grail war for any master servant pair

As for this episode, I've waited 5 episodes for more Jeanne. I'm happy =D
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Jul 31, 2017 2:18 AM

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cblue22 said:
This is my first time watching fate. If I was to watch the others which one should I start with?


Start with Fate/ Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works, wait for the upcoming Heavens Feel movies, then go on to Fate/Zero.

Fate/Stay Night is the main story. You don't want to watch Fate/Zero first because it is closer to a spinoff and spoils Fate/Stay Night, which is the main story.
Fate Zero is the better adaptation, but I'm sure you don't want the main story being spoiled for you, so be patient, watch Fate Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works, Heavens Feel movies, then Fate/Zero.
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Jul 31, 2017 2:19 AM

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Well they did alright by giving us a bit more background info regarding Jeanne and her unnatural summoning, as well as the deal with Leticia...

Other than that, it was purely random character interactions like the Black faction negotiating with Jeanne, the Jeanne and Seig talks as well as a little glimpse into Jack and her relationship with her "mother" so to speak.

Not much in the way of development, though the mystery deepens on what Shirou is trying to do right now with manipulating Clock Tower assets...
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Jul 31, 2017 3:02 AM

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Cool, they let Sieg leave for now.
Rider's master is really angry.
Jul 31, 2017 3:14 AM
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Why are they asking who ruler is? Shouldn't they know that? They literally sent Gordes and Siegfried to escort her to their castle in episode 3 ffs...
Jul 31, 2017 3:43 AM
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it was an ok episode... pretty calmly flowing plot and i can understand now why we dont swee the other aka masters...
Jul 31, 2017 3:50 AM

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Jeanne thinks that Astolfo is a girl. She refers to him as "she", but the translators messed it up. Evidently, this plays into something later on, so they shot themselves in the foot.
Jul 31, 2017 4:35 AM

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Easily the best episode of this show so far, as Sieg's subplot is far more interesting so far than anything in the actual Grail War has been, and I am far more interested in following him than I am in following either of the two factions, both of whom frankly seem like vile and terrible people for the most part; I'm hoping that neither side wins and that, if Jeanne's vision about Sieg is true, that he is the one who wins the Grail War in the end.
Jul 31, 2017 5:11 AM

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Sole reason why this episode was awesome:



We need more of main female lead of the series. :)
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Jul 31, 2017 5:19 AM

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cblue22 said:
This is my first time watching fate. If I was to watch the others which one should I start with?


Do not start with Zero, you will ruin your Fate/Stay Night experience as Zero spoils 80% of FSN plotline ( all 3 routes ) and whoever recommends you that has no idea what he is talking about.

Watch series like this:

Fate/Stay Night - 2006.
Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blades Works - 2014
Fate/Zero - 2012

And watch Heaven's Feel movies once they are done.
Jul 31, 2017 6:58 AM
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Is Rider of the black a man?
Jul 31, 2017 7:02 AM

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A dragon gave Seig command seals? In his dream? In the future?
What's going to happen to him during this war?
Jack the Ripper's master is dead? She has a mom?
What's up with the priest at the end? They already won the war? Was this the past?

So many questions to be answered :O But the next episode should be good with so many masters and servants heading to one place.

grotesque_figure said:
Is Rider of the black a man?

Draw a girl.
Call it a boy.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
AndoJul 31, 2017 7:06 AM
Jul 31, 2017 7:05 AM

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Astolfo has been pretty amazing for the last few episodes. He and Ruler made a good stand against Vlad in order to protect Sieg and they thankfully succeeded.

Ruler also helped Sieg to stay with a kind old man and reassured him that he won't be seeing her again, although that was a lie, since she had a foreshadow of him being involved with the war and fighting as well. These two will meet again, which is pretty obvious by now. =P

It looks like something decently major will happen soon by the looks of it, going by Shiro's move to take the command seals and the Loli-Assassin and her "mother" are planning on more bloodshed as well.

Good episode overall.
Jul 31, 2017 8:13 AM
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Really chill episode, so Sieg is now free but he has a fate, Ruler is such a pretty girl, I miss Red Saber, and as far as we know black saber is not done... hope the other episode would get hype... also that post credit scene whuuuuut

JACK THE REAPER OMG *-*
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Jul 31, 2017 8:28 AM

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K.. I am only one who thinks that THIS

looks like they?
Jul 31, 2017 9:09 AM

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This is not how it's done A-1.

Jul 31, 2017 9:28 AM

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I know Jeanne is waifu and all but this show is garbage. Everything related to homunculus is so painfully forced and pretentious. Characters are so bland and inconsequential it's impossible to care whether they live or die. Hell, maybe it would be better if everyone died right next episode, maybe at least something would blow up and actually happen. At this point it's hard to blame A1 alone (although they definitely deserve it), source has to be terrible as well.
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Jul 31, 2017 9:34 AM

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I feel jealous with Sieg 'cause he was protected by a waifu and a best seasonal trap.
Jul 31, 2017 9:41 AM

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The show is delving deeper into darkness.
Can anyone tell me why Vlad called Jeane a fellow sister?
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Jul 31, 2017 9:44 AM

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Alright, the show is still garbage, but now I can see, how it could've potentially been made okay.

You just needed to make it a character piece, Sieg travelling with Jeanne, plus a proper, oldschool, horror-focused Holy Grail War as the background.

Except that's my wishful thinking and what we got is still the weakest and most needlessly confusing, PG 13 war in history. Oh joy.
Jul 31, 2017 10:16 AM

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ap1001 said:
Higashide's re-writing the love scenes between Jeanne and Sieg, and it is better than the "bedroom" scene in the books. He is still missing the point, but I guess he had stopped trying to address the main issue with FA, enjoy 19 episodes of "Seig's love life (sliced with scenes from the show we wish we were watching, ie the grail war and uncle Vlad, mostly uncle Vlad)"


wtf bedroom scenes?
I swear I'll flip out if that fag defile my pure holy maiden >:(
Jul 31, 2017 10:21 AM

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The sole reason to watch Fate Apocrypha.
Jeanne <3
TBh, I wanted a submissive and blushing Jeanne which makes you want to protect her, just like in the game <3



Also, dafuq was that ending lmao
Jul 31, 2017 10:21 AM

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dasprn said:
The show is delving deeper into darkness.
Can anyone tell me why Vlad called Jeane a fellow sister?
He called her a fellow sister under God because they both fought for Christianity. Jeanne was commanded by the voice of God, and Vlad was fighting to defend the Orthodox Christian faith against the Turks. They are both deeply religious.
Jul 31, 2017 11:05 AM
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Oh boy this isn't getting better.
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This is not how it's done A-1.


Totally accurate so far.
Jul 31, 2017 11:10 AM

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Moekou said:
dasprn said:
The show is delving deeper into darkness.
Can anyone tell me why Vlad called Jeane a fellow sister?
He called her a fellow sister under God because they both fought for Christianity. Jeanne was commanded by the voice of God, and Vlad was fighting to defend the Orthodox Christian faith against the Turks. They are both deeply religious.

Wow didn't know Vlad was hardcore religious. Thanks for the info.
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Jul 31, 2017 11:26 AM

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Zarnaav said:
Oh boy this isn't getting better.
alstreim14 said:
This is not how it's done A-1.


Totally accurate so far.
then fuck off and watch another show then you weeb
Jul 31, 2017 11:39 AM
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Antanaru said:
I know Jeanne is waifu and all but this show is garbage. Everything related to homunculus is so painfully forced and pretentious. Characters are so bland and inconsequential it's impossible to care whether they live or die. Hell, maybe it would be better if everyone died right next episode, maybe at least something would blow up and actually happen. At this point it's hard to blame A1 alone (although they definitely deserve it), source has to be terrible as well.

A-1 should be blamed for not trying to fix this abomination. And then Higashide should be blamed for writing it in the first place.

The worst part is, before this was translated years ago, I thought it had tons of potential. The biggest sin of this series doesn't lie in the characters, as much as a lack of creativity. After reading spoilers for the end, I'm convinced that this will end up as the most hated entry of the series, next to Prototype Fragments.
Jul 31, 2017 11:41 AM
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dasprn said:
Moekou said:
He called her a fellow sister under God because they both fought for Christianity. Jeanne was commanded by the voice of God, and Vlad was fighting to defend the Orthodox Christian faith against the Turks. They are both deeply religious.

Wow didn't know Vlad was hardcore religious. Thanks for the info.


Wasn't that "voice of god" she hearded just the counterforce? I remember from earlier works that Jean was actually a prime example of someone who became a heroic spirit with the help of the counterforce. Unless ofcourse that was retconned...
Jul 31, 2017 11:46 AM

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Lolimancer said:
Antanaru said:
I know Jeanne is waifu and all but this show is garbage. Everything related to homunculus is so painfully forced and pretentious. Characters are so bland and inconsequential it's impossible to care whether they live or die. Hell, maybe it would be better if everyone died right next episode, maybe at least something would blow up and actually happen. At this point it's hard to blame A1 alone (although they definitely deserve it), source has to be terrible as well.

A-1 should be blamed for not trying to fix this abomination. And then Higashide should be blamed for writing it in the first place.

The worst part is, before this was translated years ago, I thought it had tons of potential. The biggest sin of this series doesn't lie in the characters, as much as a lack of creativity. After reading spoilers for the end, I'm convinced that this will end up as the most hated entry of the series, next to Prototype Fragments.
when you read the wiki spoiler and think you know everything
Jul 31, 2017 11:49 AM
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ComeAtMeWeebs said:
Lolimancer said:

A-1 should be blamed for not trying to fix this abomination. And then Higashide should be blamed for writing it in the first place.

The worst part is, before this was translated years ago, I thought it had tons of potential. The biggest sin of this series doesn't lie in the characters, as much as a lack of creativity. After reading spoilers for the end, I'm convinced that this will end up as the most hated entry of the series, next to Prototype Fragments.
when you read the wiki spoiler and think you know everything

*When you read spoilers on 2ch in glorious moon runes
FTFY
Jul 31, 2017 11:50 AM

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Ahh, he named himself Sieg. I was hoping for "POTATO". :(
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Jul 31, 2017 11:55 AM

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Lolimancer said:
ComeAtMeWeebs said:
when you read the wiki spoiler and think you know everything

*When you read spoilers on 2ch in glorious moon runes
FTFY
cant understand what your saying
Jul 31, 2017 11:57 AM

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Lolimancer said:
ComeAtMeWeebs said:
when you read the wiki spoiler and think you know everything

*When you read spoilers on 2ch in glorious moon runes
FTFY
dam must be hard to use google translate : (
Jul 31, 2017 12:08 PM
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ComeAtMeWeebs said:
Lolimancer said:

*When you read spoilers on 2ch in glorious moon runes
FTFY
dam must be hard to use google translate : (

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But ye I'm just a filthy EOP.
Jul 31, 2017 12:11 PM

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Lolimancer said:
ComeAtMeWeebs said:
dam must be hard to use google translate : (

不潔外人
But ye I'm just a filthy EOP.
at least you dont sit in your mom basement eating ramen while making 2 paragraph post about a anime on how bad it is.
Jul 31, 2017 1:45 PM

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I actually liked the way A-1 changed the Jeanne/Sieg and Jeanne/Blacks first interaction. It makes more sense now. Also, it was great that the episode didn't feel rushed compared to the previous one

The start of Jeann'e internal monologue in the end was definitely one of the best and most impactful moments in the episode. I wonder how A-1 manages to screw up certain scenes, but makes some other things great at the same time.
Jul 31, 2017 1:56 PM

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I may sound like a triggered secondary, but why does Sieg even exist?
Jul 31, 2017 2:23 PM
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ComeAtMeWeebs said:
Zarnaav said:
Oh boy this isn't getting better.

Totally accurate so far.
then fuck off and watch another show chinese cartoon then you weeb

Okay, I will
Also FTFY
Jul 31, 2017 2:31 PM

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Zarnaav said:
ComeAtMeWeebs said:
then fuck off and watch another show chinese cartoon then you weeb

Okay, I will
Also FTFY
lmao sure next week you prob still watching lowkey and whine to your online friends
Jul 31, 2017 2:39 PM
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ComeAtMeWeebs said:
Zarnaav said:

Okay, I will
Also FTFY
lmao sure next week you prob still watching lowkey and whine to your online friends

You've just assumed I hate it, so far I don't dislike it, is just the slow pacing , Shishigo/Mordred not appearing and lack of fighting scenes make me wanting this to get better, at least compared to previous episodes , which I like.
I don't have any online friends who'd I want to whine about this, unless you want to become my friend to listen to my complains *wink*
Jul 31, 2017 2:52 PM

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Probably the best episode so far even though I still have some problems with some characters (Astlofo is still annoying as hell for example) and Jeanne being voiced by Maaya Sakamoto is maybe way too soft (I know it was for the purpose but still).
Can't really grasp my head around what they wan't to do with that "love story" though.

Well, we are still not quite there but at least this episode was bit of an improvement.
Jul 31, 2017 2:53 PM

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1/5 Horrible episode!

The creator of this filth shall receive a very painful death in the near future!
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Jul 31, 2017 3:15 PM
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Lolimancer said:
Antanaru said:
I know Jeanne is waifu and all but this show is garbage. Everything related to homunculus is so painfully forced and pretentious. Characters are so bland and inconsequential it's impossible to care whether they live or die. Hell, maybe it would be better if everyone died right next episode, maybe at least something would blow up and actually happen. At this point it's hard to blame A1 alone (although they definitely deserve it), source has to be terrible as well.

A-1 should be blamed for not trying to fix this abomination. And then Higashide should be blamed for writing it in the first place.

The worst part is, before this was translated years ago, I thought it had tons of potential. The biggest sin of this series doesn't lie in the characters, as much as a lack of creativity. After reading spoilers for the end, I'm convinced that this will end up as the most hated entry of the series, next to Prototype Fragments.


Hated? How is Fragments hated? It honestly has good characters and the novels make sure to focus on each of them. If this is about Manaka then understandable but that doesn't really take away from the fact that Fragments is actually written well for the most part. The story might be all over the place, but that's the point isn't it?
Jul 31, 2017 3:17 PM

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Well, not much to say. Jeanne is kind.

Mordred team will be back next episode? I hope so.

Shrimperor said:
I may sound like a triggered secondary, but why does Sieg even exist?
Because he's the mc :blobshrug:
Jul 31, 2017 3:56 PM

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Close to dropping this one actually, sofar its a waste of time.
Jul 31, 2017 4:02 PM

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Jeanne became such a waifu this episode...
Anyways, I was kind of hoping he'll survive but I didn't like how they killed off siegfried for this guy.
I really don't like Shirou Kotomine. Overall I really like the black faction over the red. Or maybe because they concentrate them more. But I think it is because I like Vlad.

The OP is kinda like Another(I think I mentioned this before) and the ending sounded a bit similar to Asura Cryin' for some reason. Maybe same people
Jul 31, 2017 4:14 PM
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Lolimancer said:
Sakurai's writing isn't bad per se, as in her grammar is actually wonderful, but the "writing" in terms of plot and certainly Manaka is a problem. She also has a bit of a problem with going off on a dissertation when it isn't needed. But aside from Manaka and Arthur it's got really solid characters. No Fate work is terribly "hated" because of the massive FGO circlejerk in Japan (make no mistake I still play it and enjoy it), but on less mainstream websites like 2ch they have their least favorite works.


I don't know what problems you have with Arthur. He's might not be waifu like Artoria but he's developed well too, taking the best traits of the former and mixing it in with Shirou along with some of EMIYA. Or rather, all three could be said as what would happen if Arthur were to be split into three different people.

And Manaka is a fun villain to have, though I'll admit that when she's around the text describing her comes off as a little off putting. Then again that might be the point since we'd want to see her die.
Jul 31, 2017 5:51 PM

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Another trash episode, heres to 19 more.

Winter cant come soon enough.
Jul 31, 2017 6:02 PM
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As I mentioned on episode 2 discussion, Siegreid became the first servant of this show I liked. But he died... (It was really was his fate... what a sad...)

Fortunately, looks like I happen to like this episode or so far happen! Everything's going smooth so far. (Yeah now I will forget what the hell FZ is, orelse I won't enjoy this show :\ )

1/5 of the show completed already. But I am finding hard to rate upto this point. The interesting character, Shirou is still not taken his action yet :\
Also, I am surprise to see that king seems to be generous leader! I am rooting for him to win this great grail battle! :D
BTW, Archer techique seems to be useful in this "great" grail battlefield. I think Archer will play a role in each team's victory or defeat.

BTW, Jeanne has still lot to do to become potential waifu material.



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