High School DxD BorN Episode 12 Discussion

Hiei3x said:
You two above made me think but you didnt adress my point about RIA's wanting Issei for herself, it's clear that she seriously ressent sometimes sharing him with the girls.

She is mad at Issei and sad the whole season not just because he didnt call her by her name but also because she ressents that he gives more attention and love for the others.

What is exactly stoping him from being harem king anyway?

Hiei3x said:
I love Highschool and i dislike the LN lovers. So i just want to say that the 1-7 episodes people were crazy here about the show because they are doing VERY WELL even the LN guys said it here.

After that it was a bit rushed, i felt it. The important events and battles didnt have the impact they should have. The final battle and ISSEI saving RIA wasnt dramatic as it should be.

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About some guy here that raised a very important question about RIA's love for Issei. It's clear that she wants him for herself, she wants to marry him. But in the final momentos of episode 12 you can see her saying "its they way it should be, for now". She's saying that for now she can share him with the girls but it can last forever.

Which is incredible since Issei's goal is to be a harem king. So eventually Issei WILL HAVE to choose between being a harem king or marrying Ria.

I was really upset and cried when i saw that he didnt remember the kiss.

PussyCatFromHell said:
As a person who haven't read LN-version, I liked this season, a lot. Plot is becoming more and more interesting, and there was cool character development all around. Now we just have wait for the OVA's and season 4 to come.... Maybe I should start reading LN's.

JustALEX said:
The whole season was MEH...

And I'm not talking about the plot....the plot has always been stupid.

The Ecchi, the REAL driving force behind this was Meh and nothing more....

Move aside DXD....TLR Darkness will teach you how ecchi should by done!

6/10

JustALEX said:
The whole season was MEH...

And I'm not talking about the plot....the plot has always been stupid.

The Ecchi, the REAL driving force behind this was Meh and nothing more....

Move aside DXD....TLR Darkness will teach you how ecchi should by done!

6/10

Skullk1d28 said:
So all Issei had to do was shout Rias' name really loudly and she turned back to normal... so dumb, is this how it happens in the manga? Cause if so I'm now much less inclined to pick it up and read.

Then the enemy dragon appears and I'm all excited for another awesome dragon battle between the two Issei, but then the original comes up with a new attack out of nowhere which finishes the copy off with one move... also dumb (then again the whole concept of Loki being able to clone Issei with a piece of his dragon form is questionable).

I wasn't expecting much with only one episode left but even this is too much for me, the first season is by far the best out of the three in my opinion. The last two were lacking in enjoyment so much so that I'll be surprised if they ever release another. Even if they do, I probably won't be watching it until it's finished and even then I expect I'll be skimming through the episodes, this latest season 'BorN' has really put a dent in my love for the series, which is sad because I adore the first season and was expecting so much better.

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BlackCatLuna said:

Rias knows that the girls love him and because she knows she won his heart she willing to share him after they become a couple in vol 10

I don't know if the other people who responded to this agree with this statement but, that how i see it.

BlackCatLuna said:

So yes in a way Rias will win because she will most likely become his only official wife and true love. that does not mean however he will not stll have a harem and do ecchi stuff with the other girls.

curzon17 said:
Well, i rewatched the entire season again, and my opinion of the show changed a bit. A lot of things that i was confused about, or thought wasn't explained very well, actually made sense, and i just forgot about the important scenes from one week to the next. That makes the story of the whole season a lot better and more complete. That said, the final arc was still a travesty. Nothing wrong with eps 1-9 but as soon as that Rias possession plot came around, the season took a sharp nosedive, which is too bad because that's pretty much the first arc of any DxD season that i've had a problem with. Oh well, it wasn't terrible, just uninspired. And dealing with the whole 'call me Rias' thing now will just make it seem redundant when it comes up for real in the future, even if they have no memory of that dream dimension conversation. Maybe that's a sign there will be no future season(s), who knows. But I feel the series has done well enough that they should give a 4th season a try. Even if season 3 was weaker than the rest.




You should maybe put spoiler tags on future plot info like that.



What i sometimes wonder about, is how that harem is actually gonna take shape. I mean, he wants to become a Devil King, and thus form his own peerage. And needless to say, most if not all of those evil pieces in his peerage will be women - his harem. But, I can't imagine all the girls who are falling for him now, actually leaving Rias and joining his peerage when the time comes. Asia and Xenovia, yeah, but not Akeno or Koneko. I mean, Isse's not gonna totally bleed Rias' peerage dry and just leave her and the two dudes in there. So in a way, he'll have his peerage harem, but he'll also have a number of girls not in his peerage, making up an arguably second harem. Boggles my mind. I can't wait to read the end of the LNs to see how that plays out.

vaeriury said:
woo, the pieces are complete,
Will season 4 story like 'Akame ga kill' ???

all the members die one by one for each battle againts the enemy :D
It'll be a depressing anime !!!

Preciize said:
If my memory serves me right, in the LN Issei remembered Rias wanting him to call her by her name, right? He was just too embarrassed about it or something like that.

Anyways, I enjoyed this season. I agree that the last few episodes weren't as good as the ones before them, but I still liked it overall.

Preciize said:
If my memory serves me right, in the LN Issei remembered Rias wanting him to call her by her name, right? He was just too embarrassed about it or something like that.

Anyways, I enjoyed this season. I agree that the last few episodes weren't as good as the ones before them, but I still liked it overall.

rrtyuui said:
@Darklight
Even as a LN reader i didnt think it was THAT bad, dk why you are complaining about the way they got issei out of JD, i thought it was even better than the LN, the oppai song would have completely ruined the seriousness of it. If you can read japanese just pop over to 2ch and read some of the comments, dk why its only the western audience that has the mindset that if a anime does not follow the source material then its total shit. All in all i thought this season was pretty good except for the last few episodes which i thought was not up to standard, if you dont like it just pretend that it nvr happened, dont need to start trashing on ppl that thought it was good since from a anime only point of view its still acceptable. S2>S3>S1, also i think fitting 4 volumes into 24 episode would have been perfect but with the way the anime industry is now it aint really surprising they chose to do 12 episode, hope they will rethink the amount of episodes in a season for season 4 since that willl be when dxd becomes really good, as long as they dont screw up the next few volumes fans will be satisfied.

Darklight0303 said:


This person was claiming that the novel had elements that happened only in the anime. I corrected them. Take your stupid white knight/apologist routine elsewhere.

PrimeX said:
how exactly did Rias and Issei got back from the Dimensional Gap?
how and why did they lose some of their memories after they got back?
Rossweise will join them just like that?
I have many issues with this season but dammit I just love this series I can't give it anything lower than 7. But yeah this season is, although not bad, is the worst out of the 3 and I don't even read the LN
Pretty sure there will be an S4 but it will probably happen after 1-2 years

BlackCatLuna said:
Why did they give it a original anime ending? Any ideas?

Darklight0303 said:


Thought they could get away with it with the anime only crowd

Darklight0303 said:


Thought they could get away with it with the anime only crowd

BlackCatLuna said:


I hate when shows do that. It ruins things for the hardcore fan base. Which is funny since those are the most likely buyers. Unless the blueray contain some extra scence that make this show a bit better i don't think i will buy it. :( I will j u st pretend it does not exist just like i do so with the star wars prequals which were bloody awful. Gorege Lucus might have some great charcter ideas and plot twists but as a screen writer he kind of sucks.

Darklight0303 said:


It was okay up until the end of the Juggernaut drive sequence. After that it went completely into bad fanfic teritory

Hraktuus said:
Soooo much bitching. I liked it. Was going to give it a 7. Then I gave it an 8 because of the Dragon Oppai song at the end! XD

People complaining it's not enough like the light novel should really be reading different novels if they want good story... For example, if they started butchering Haruhi Suzumiya's plot or Bakemonogatari's plot just to speed them up or make more seasons, I'd be outraged. But this is DxD we're talking about. It's no big deal. People are taking this wayyy too seriously.