Little Busters! Episode 14 Discussion

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Tyrel said:

zeroyuki92 said:
Since I didn't have the time to play Mio's arc in the VN in this week, I decided to rush the entire of Mio's arc without reading the VN first.

The result? It's good. I got the feel, although my head still recreate some of the script and music directions that I think were missed opportunity. But still, it's a good ride.

So I heard the next arc would be Haruka's. I like her character, but I totally dislike her route due to her (and Kud's) writer. Random pacing, so many useless text filler and lack of punch in the emotional field. Hiah... If only Jun Maeda have enough time to write the entire Little Busters... Non-Refrain (and non-Rin) routes would be much better.

I hope Haruka's route in anime would be better than in the VN.

Conclusion : Much better than Haruka. Mio's arc : 4.2/5.

Also, http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-01-10/writer/jun-maeda-might-work-on-new-key-title Yeah! More Jun Maeda pls! Seems like he returned from the long break.

But before that, SLEEPOVER PARTY!

Oh god Jun will be back? PLEASE GOD LET HIM RETURN.

He needs to comeback and drop kick Tonokawa. That Shizuru route was most abominable.

Jan 13, 2013 2:07 PM

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Best episode so far.
I wasn't satisfied by Komari's arc adaptation, but this one was simply perfect. Very emotional and well executed.
5/5
Some fun for the next episode, I was waiting for that.

Tyrel said:

Oh god Jun will be back? PLEASE GOD LET HIM RETURN.

Best news of the week. He is a great writer.

Jan 13, 2013 2:15 PM

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Damn that was good. I love the subject matter in this anime, really makes you reflect. I'm sure by the end of the series I'l be forced to play the VN;)

Jan 13, 2013 2:22 PM

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kratos_aurion said:

Tyrel said:

Oh god Jun will be back? PLEASE GOD LET HIM RETURN.

Best news of the week. He is a great writer.

Note that it only states that he MIGHT return. Nothing confirmed yet, or it could be "only" that mysterious Angel Beats : The Visual Novel that wasn't heard anymore in news for years.

Jan 13, 2013 2:29 PM

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Indeed, Maeda is not confirmed yet.

https://twitter.com/AnimeNewsNet/status/289384468064653312

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-01-10/writer/jun-maeda-might-work-on-new-key-title

The magazine asks if the staff on the new Key title is going to be the same as in Key's Rewrite project. Tonokawa responded, "It is still not set in stone, but there is a possibility that might happen. Also, I'm thinking to have Jun Maeda participate."

Jan 13, 2013 2:40 PM

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zeroyuki92 said:
Since I didn't have the time to play Mio's arc in the VN in this week, I decided to rush the entire of Mio's arc without reading the VN first.

The result? It's good. I got the feel, although my head still recreate some of the script and music directions that I think were missed opportunity. But still, it's a good ride.

So I heard the next arc would be Haruka's. I like her character, but I totally dislike her route due to her (and Kud's) writer. Random pacing, so many useless text filler and lack of punch in the emotional field. Hiah... If only Jun Maeda have enough time to write the entire Little Busters... Non-Refrain (and non-Rin) routes would be much better.

I hope Haruka's route in anime would be better than in the VN.

Conclusion : Much better than Haruka. Mio's arc : 4.2/5.

Also, http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-01-10/writer/jun-maeda-might-work-on-new-key-title Yeah! More Jun Maeda pls! Seems like he returned from the long break.

But before that, SLEEPOVER PARTY!

I wrote a summary of the events from the VN when I was on reddit yesterday, if you want to get a better feel of what happened. I'd like it if my writing didn't go to waste lol.

In the VN in Mio's route, Mio rooms with Kud, and you're check out her room and find her huge pile of books in her closet. The closet bursts open as soon as you open the closet, even though Mio told you not to ;)
Riki also goes on a sort of date with Mio to the bookstore to look for some books. There are more scenes shown of Mio's "troll glasses" because she never actually wore them lol.
Later, when Midori appears, she steals a kiss from Riki outside the school where Mio is usually at.
The Visual Novel basically covers a 2 week span of everyday events with all the Little Busters until the relationship gets spicy and then Midori business happens.
K I'm skimming through the VN again.
The struggle between picking Mio over Midori is a lot longer, and Riki yells out a lot more during it. Mio starts out by getting sick before Midori eventually takes over. They go on the date the next day after Riki visits her room and the books fall out.(and she's wearing her other casual clothes ;>) There's a cute scene where they get hamburgers, and Mio needs a drink after the pickles on the burger appear too sour for her. Riki hands her his cola. Oh how she loves sucking on that straw that Riki's succulent lips touched merely moments before...
Then they go to the beach, and she foreshadows her disappearance, saying "This is where ends begin". Nishizona "dematerializes" for a second in front her, disappearing for a split second. An illusion? Who knows?
She recites the poem, Midori appears, similar to the anime in the last episode. Riki goes to sleep. Riki goes through a regular day with the main Little Busters (Rin, Kyousuke, Kengo, Masato). No Mio today. Next day, same thing. Mio just doesn't show up to school at that point. Riki notices that something feels strange throughout the week. He feels a certain emptiness that he can't place his finger on, because he's forgetting about Nishizono.
Then Riki remembers Mio when he discovers the book that Mio entrusted to him. The events with Mio showing up at school the after that are similar. Rin also notices that the past week has been strange when she talks to Riki later on. Rin barges in to Mio's room and finds all the books gone
The playing around part with Midori and Riki in the park is similar. The next day, Riki talks to Midori again. This time he starts messing with him, bringing up his forgetfulness, mention that Mio could've worn glasses. She then makes another lie about what the school lunch was a week ago. This makes Riki realize that his memories are simply illusions, especially when no one can seem to remember things properly in this world.
The scene with Kyousuke in the anime is done in the hallway in the VN instead. I liked the anime version a lot better tho, for obvious reasons.
Mmm a bunch more days go by. Riki talks to Midori each day, and she finally steals a kiss from him, and this is when the route splits. You call her name quietly: a.)Mio
b.) Midori
I think in the h-scene version, if you call her Mio, you're accepting Midori as a replacement for Mio, like she wants, then some relationship with her happens and they do the sexing.
Midori tells Riki to meet Mio for the last time at the beach, the scene happens like in the anime.
Mio necessitates Riki after he almost drowns. After that, they have some dialogue and kiss.
Some pics: http://cgv.blicky.net/lbe/0237.jpg http://cgv.blicky.net/lbe/0253.jpg

Also, if you liked Mio, you'll like this. I hope it gets animated!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Td4Lzaziw

Mio gets a lot more funny later on in the "common route", which is basically the inbetween slice of life stuff between each heroine's "big finale" in the anime.
I know I can't give a good idea of what the experience is like in the Visual Novel, but those are some key events that were missing. It took me like 3-4 hours to get through her route, so the experience was more intimate, even though Mio was my least favorite heroine (pretty long and wordy in the VN)

Anyway check this vid out lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Td4Lzaziw

Jan 13, 2013 3:04 PM

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I have some questions about this episode. Since it contains major spoiler, those who have not read the Visual Novel should be careful not to click open the spoiler if they don't want to get spoiled.

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Jan 13, 2013 3:59 PM

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I liked this arc and specially this episode really much ^.^ The arc itself seemed a bit so-so but this end really made up for it tenfold <3 Almost got me teary-eyed
5/5 for the ep, 4/5 for the arc :)

Jan 13, 2013 7:05 PM

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Tyrel said:

blubberflub said:
its the same deal with the other key stories

clannad/kanon spoilers

Aka if I see people complaining about the bird part, and they rated the other shows top tier I'll facepalm so hard.

If nothing else, it's likely due to J.C. bashing. ._.

Jan 13, 2013 7:12 PM

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kenshin_sama said:

Tyrel said:

blubberflub said:
its the same deal with the other key stories

clannad/kanon spoilers

Aka if I see people complaining about the bird part, and they rated the other shows top tier I'll facepalm so hard.

If nothing else, it's likely due to J.C. bashing. ._.

People should be used to key magic by now

Jan 13, 2013 11:15 PM

#162

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Beautiful episode I had a whole lot of goosebumps and I was so close to crying ;w;

Jan 14, 2013 12:02 AM

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Vladz0r said:

zeroyuki92 said:
Since I didn't have the time to play Mio's arc in the VN in this week, I decided to rush the entire of Mio's arc without reading the VN first.

The result? It's good. I got the feel, although my head still recreate some of the script and music directions that I think were missed opportunity. But still, it's a good ride.

So I heard the next arc would be Haruka's. I like her character, but I totally dislike her route due to her (and Kud's) writer. Random pacing, so many useless text filler and lack of punch in the emotional field. Hiah... If only Jun Maeda have enough time to write the entire Little Busters... Non-Refrain (and non-Rin) routes would be much better.

I hope Haruka's route in anime would be better than in the VN.

Conclusion : Much better than Haruka. Mio's arc : 4.2/5.

Also, http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-01-10/writer/jun-maeda-might-work-on-new-key-title Yeah! More Jun Maeda pls! Seems like he returned from the long break.

But before that, SLEEPOVER PARTY!

I wrote a summary of the events from the VN when I was on reddit yesterday, if you want to get a better feel of what happened. I'd like it if my writing didn't go to waste lol.

In the VN in Mio's route, Mio rooms with Kud, and you're check out her room and find her huge pile of books in her closet. The closet bursts open as soon as you open the closet, even though Mio told you not to ;)
Riki also goes on a sort of date with Mio to the bookstore to look for some books. There are more scenes shown of Mio's "troll glasses" because she never actually wore them lol.
Later, when Midori appears, she steals a kiss from Riki outside the school where Mio is usually at.
The Visual Novel basically covers a 2 week span of everyday events with all the Little Busters until the relationship gets spicy and then Midori business happens.
K I'm skimming through the VN again.
The struggle between picking Mio over Midori is a lot longer, and Riki yells out a lot more during it. Mio starts out by getting sick before Midori eventually takes over. They go on the date the next day after Riki visits her room and the books fall out.(and she's wearing her other casual clothes ;>) There's a cute scene where they get hamburgers, and Mio needs a drink after the pickles on the burger appear too sour for her. Riki hands her his cola. Oh how she loves sucking on that straw that Riki's succulent lips touched merely moments before...
Then they go to the beach, and she foreshadows her disappearance, saying "This is where ends begin". Nishizona "dematerializes" for a second in front her, disappearing for a split second. An illusion? Who knows?
She recites the poem, Midori appears, similar to the anime in the last episode. Riki goes to sleep. Riki goes through a regular day with the main Little Busters (Rin, Kyousuke, Kengo, Masato). No Mio today. Next day, same thing. Mio just doesn't show up to school at that point. Riki notices that something feels strange throughout the week. He feels a certain emptiness that he can't place his finger on, because he's forgetting about Nishizono.
Then Riki remembers Mio when he discovers the book that Mio entrusted to him. The events with Mio showing up at school the after that are similar. Rin also notices that the past week has been strange when she talks to Riki later on. Rin barges in to Mio's room and finds all the books gone
The playing around part with Midori and Riki in the park is similar. The next day, Riki talks to Midori again. This time he starts messing with him, bringing up his forgetfulness, mention that Mio could've worn glasses. She then makes another lie about what the school lunch was a week ago. This makes Riki realize that his memories are simply illusions, especially when no one can seem to remember things properly in this world.
The scene with Kyousuke in the anime is done in the hallway in the VN instead. I liked the anime version a lot better tho, for obvious reasons.
Mmm a bunch more days go by. Riki talks to Midori each day, and she finally steals a kiss from him, and this is when the route splits. You call her name quietly: a.)Mio
b.) Midori
I think in the h-scene version, if you call her Mio, you're accepting Midori as a replacement for Mio, like she wants, then some relationship with her happens and they do the sexing.
Midori tells Riki to meet Mio for the last time at the beach, the scene happens like in the anime.
Mio necessitates Riki after he almost drowns. After that, they have some dialogue and kiss.
Some pics: http://cgv.blicky.net/lbe/0237.jpg http://cgv.blicky.net/lbe/0253.jpg

Also, if you liked Mio, you'll like this. I hope it gets animated!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Td4Lzaziw

Mio gets a lot more funny later on in the "common route", which is basically the inbetween slice of life stuff between each heroine's "big finale" in the anime.
I know I can't give a good idea of what the experience is like in the Visual Novel, but those are some key events that were missing. It took me like 3-4 hours to get through her route, so the experience was more intimate, even though Mio was my least favorite heroine (pretty long and wordy in the VN)

Anyway check this vid out lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Td4Lzaziw

Thank you, but I prefer to experience it by myself lol (Kurugaya, Mio and Rin 2 left). I heard some comments about this route would be much better if it's romance based, but I can still buy the "Riki value friendship over everything" reasons :p

Anyway, somehow what I got from your last paragraph is that Mio in common route will be different after the

, just] like small differences in Rin after completing some routes. Am I taking it wrong?

Btw, although it still has pretty bad sound direction, the BGM itself is really great in this episode. Probably it's one of the factor that make the 'feel' in this episode felt good.

Jan 14, 2013 1:49 AM

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After 14 episodes I finally saw a nice side of Naoe kun
Mio and Midori Merging togheter
sounds old, but worked for me

Jan 14, 2013 3:29 AM

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Faraway is by the way the english meaning of "Haruka Kanata" which is the song title in the VN playlist, also this song impacted me the most during Haruka's route, incidentally the japanese title is a combination of Haruka Saigusa and Kanata Futaki's first name. and yes just as VN reader have previously said, there is a voiced version which is surely going to be played on the refrain arc which will be reserved for season 2.

here's the list of the tracks that played in this episode for everyone to "youtube"
besides "Haruka kanata", we also heard
"Little Melody",
"unused track 3"
"Lamplight"
"song for friends instrumental"
"when will realization come"
"incummunicable message"
"in town of incessant rain"
"two sugars:
and the new(supposedly) ED Rita's Clear weather after the rain ^_^

I'm pretty sure on Rin, Kud and Haruka's arc the voiced version for the song "song for friends will play" but maybe this could also be used for the part II aka "refrain"

as for the Episode, it does feel rushed, this coming from me who took hours to finish Mio's route, but imho reading Mio's arc was too slowpaced for my taste so I prefer the way this was adapted in the anime version, though of course I'd be happier if JC Staff would make the anime work similar to amagami SS wherein each Heroines would get their romance since some (important and interesting )elements in the VN will be left out just to maintain the anime's linear plot flow. this arc did not made me cry in the VN, so basically this anime won't too. but I love the OSTs playing and the depths it has reached, this arc was better adapted than Komari's arc which I think everyone would agree. now I'm looking forward to haruka's route as imho her route is the best one of all the girls, (I personally disliked Rin2's arc for some reason)

now next EPs gonna be a troll, as every VN reader would guess, yeah it'll troll us with pun intended.

PS: I've read EX version and the bath scene between Rin and Komari was uncensored as freak, revealing things that shouldn't be revealed in the first place, but good thing JC Staff is not pulling HSDxD or we'll be accused of being a lolicon O_o

Jan 14, 2013 6:59 AM

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kenshin_sama said:

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Personally i am happy this arc is over for me this was the worst arc so far i just don't like Mio character and pretty much all of her sorrow is something she created herself.
She was the one that didn't try to contact other children at a young age she was the one that created her imaginary friend she didn't do anything at all to contact people her age from what i could tell.
She doesn't appear to be overly shy so she could have made friends along the way but she didn't she didn't try to improve her own situation at all.
Which is the main reason why i don't like her character with her behaviour i can't feel sorry for her.

Thank you for the psychological diagnosis, Dr. Aversa. Oh, wait a minute...

I took that into consideration however it's not a excuse for her to not befriend others.
It's also not a excuse to not stand up for herself which she didn't do at all not to her mother not to the doctors not to people of her age a good example of this was the previous episode where someone walked against her and she didn't do anything about it.

Jan 14, 2013 11:07 AM

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Aversa said:

kenshin_sama said:

Aversa said:
Personally i am happy this arc is over for me this was the worst arc so far i just don't like Mio character and pretty much all of her sorrow is something she created herself.
She was the one that didn't try to contact other children at a young age she was the one that created her imaginary friend she didn't do anything at all to contact people her age from what i could tell.
She doesn't appear to be overly shy so she could have made friends along the way but she didn't she didn't try to improve her own situation at all.
Which is the main reason why i don't like her character with her behaviour i can't feel sorry for her.

Thank you for the psychological diagnosis, Dr. Aversa. Oh, wait a minute...

I took that into consideration however it's not a excuse for her to not befriend others.
It's also not a excuse to not stand up for herself which she didn't do at all not to her mother not to the doctors not to people of her age a good example of this was the previous episode where someone walked against her and she didn't do anything about it.

Well, her initial incentives for creating an imaginary friend weren't due to loneliness, she is just a figment of her imagination. And she could have stood up for herself, but you gotta remember how young she was back then. Children at that age aren't often able to think for themselves and they often follow the lead of their parental figures. The mother was against the idea of Mio having an imaginary friend and took her to see a doctor for treatment. As a result, she lost something that was significant to her and she received a lot of mental scarring that lead to her current mentality. As a result, she feels the need to give her own existence so that Midori would be the one to stay. Also, while her character isn't really fit to be called shy, she never had any intention of making friends either. The only reason she made friends with Riki is because he took an initial interest in her.

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Jan 14, 2013 1:03 PM

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@zeroyuki92

Indeed, Mio acts differently later in the common route.
She's more like Midori sometimes.

The reason for her acting different

Check out her actions during the next episode ;>

Jan 14, 2013 6:58 PM

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Wow, best episode yet, in my opinion. This was so so so so so much better than Komari's route. This was also the first episode to cause me to break down in tears. I think part of the reason I liked this so much was because of how much I can relate to Mio. She's still probably my least favorite heroine (not that that's a bad thing because I love all the girls), but her route may end up being my favorite (other than Rin's, Refrain, and possibly Haruka's).

What "Adolescence" do you have?
Do you remember "Childhood"?
The irreplaceable one existed there.

Jan 14, 2013 7:08 PM

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Barajas_201 said:
well little busters has been a disappointment for me, not once have it made me cry unlike angel beats and clannad, not even gave me goosebumps, i really hope gets better because i don't want to drop a key production :T

Tbh, i didn't shed a single tear until the second half of clannad after story. Angel beats was a 13 episode series and hit the climax much faster.

were not even half way up the hill yet buddy, hold that disappointment till the end.

you're going to inevitably love refrain, might as well keep watching lol

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Jan 14, 2013 7:52 PM

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Barajas_201 said:
well little busters has been a disappointment for me, not once have it made me cry unlike angel beats and clannad, not even gave me goosebumps, i really hope gets better because i don't want to drop a key production :T

In VN Little busters i only cried once and its on refrain. but it's enough to make me so depressed! XD

Jan 14, 2013 8:00 PM

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Barajas_201 said:
well little busters has been a disappointment for me, not once have it made me cry unlike angel beats and clannad, not even gave me goosebumps, i really hope gets better because i don't want to drop a key production :T

I don't think you understand how Key productions work. Takes time to work up the series.. Examples = Clannad, Kanon. Angel Beats and Air got to the climax faster because they're 13 episodes.

Jan 14, 2013 8:44 PM

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Barajas_201 said:
well little busters has been a disappointment for me, not once have it made me cry unlike angel beats and clannad, not even gave me goosebumps, i really hope gets better because i don't want to drop a key production :T

It gets MUCH better.
The past two heroine were probably the least character emotional routes for me from playing the VN. A lot of people who enjoyed the last episode liked it because they fell in love with the characters, or played the VN.

The future routes and character backstories and motivations are more identifiable, I feel, compared to something like Mio's backstory.

I teared more in Refrain than I did in Clannad After Story and Ano Hana combined.
I hope you'll come to enjoy the characters more, please chill with the Little Busters once a week until the end.

Jan 14, 2013 8:45 PM

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Barajas_201 said:
well little busters has been a disappointment for me, not once have it made me cry unlike angel beats and clannad, not even gave me goosebumps, i really hope gets better because i don't want to drop a key production :T

We're not even meant to cry yet since they are still introducing the themes which will lead on to Refrain.

Jan 15, 2013 1:58 AM

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Tyrel said:

Barajas_201 said:
well little busters has been a disappointment for me, not once have it made me cry unlike angel beats and clannad, not even gave me goosebumps, i really hope gets better because i don't want to drop a key production :T

I don't think you understand how Key productions work. Takes time to work up the series.. Examples = Clannad, Kanon. Angel Beats and Air got to the climax faster because they're 13 episodes.

Actually, Kanon would be a pretty bad example to use since it was better in the beginning than it was towards the end, but it is true for works like Air and Clannad and Little Busters would be no exception. Maeda Jun is Key's only great writer up until Rewrite.

Jan 15, 2013 3:41 AM

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Actually, Kanon would be a pretty bad example to use since it was better in the beginning than it was towards the end, but it is true for works like Air and Clannad and Little Busters would be no exception. Maeda Jun is Key's only great writer up until Rewrite.

Yeah, I feel like his writing will pull through for Rin's routes and Refrain. Maybe that's why there seems to be so much time left until the eventual 52 episodes. Hopefully it will use up a lot of time for those parts of Little Busters.

Jan 15, 2013 5:26 PM

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nice, really good job with the mio arc.
left out some parts, but this definitely was faithful to the VN

REALLY nice how they actually used "clear weather after the rain" as the ED for mio's finale, hoping "song for friends" comes up as well

although, i cant help but think, with only 12 episodes left (11 episodes, since next week looks like it will be solely on the slumber party)

Barajas_201 said:
well little busters has been a disappointment for me, not once have it made me cry unlike angel beats and clannad, not even gave me goosebumps, i really hope gets better because i don't want to drop a key production :T

bro, you have NO idea what this series will do to you once it hits refrain... -_-

you wanna cry? just wait....

and besides the fact, komari's and mio's routes in the VN weren't exactly the most emotional, in my opinion.

leave your judgment for the end

wilcruz2Jan 15, 2013 5:36 PM

Jan 16, 2013 2:41 AM

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I don’t have time to write out what I really want to write. I will try later on. Seeing it twice. This is my take on it.

About the reality side of things, Mio tell Rikki she does not want to live in this world and suicides by drowning herself in the waters, which happens a lot in Japan as a suicidal method. Rikki saves her by getting her before she sinks too deep.

About Key Magic, Midori transports Mio into a deep sub dimension or deep underwater place. This made me think of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Water_(2002_film)
Where Mio awaits and Rikki happens in wanting to save her is granted by Midori access and saves Mio. Now this might be vague in general.

Finally I am leaving this,

THE BEST MIO MOE! Girls like Mio should totally have a nice guy to make a nice family and be happy. They don’t deserve being bullied, thrashed, abused and discarded into suicide or hikkikomori status. No one does. Time is up! That’s all.

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Jan 16, 2013 6:44 AM

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Yumekichi11 said:
I don’t have time to write out what I really want to write. I will try later on. Seeing it twice. This is my take on it.

About the reality side of things, Mio tell Rikki she does not want to live in this world and suicides by drowning herself in the waters, which happens a lot in Japan as a suicidal method. Rikki saves her by getting her before she sinks too deep.

About Key Magic, Midori transports Mio into a deep sub dimension or deep underwater place. This made me think of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Water_(2002_film)
Where Mio awaits and Rikki happens in wanting to save her is granted by Midori access and saves Mio. Now this might be vague in general.

The underwater part was sort of just artistic license. He wasn't really "transported" anywhere. It was all in his mind.

Also, LB's description mentions Riki's feelings for Rin? What? Does this mean a Rin ending is confirmed?

Jan 16, 2013 11:43 AM

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Yumekichi11 said:
I don’t have time to write out what I really want to write. I will try later on. Seeing it twice. This is my take on it.

About the reality side of things, Mio tell Rikki she does not want to live in this world and suicides by drowning herself in the waters, which happens a lot in Japan as a suicidal method. Rikki saves her by getting her before she sinks too deep.

About Key Magic, Midori transports Mio into a deep sub dimension or deep underwater place. This made me think of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Water_(2002_film)
Where Mio awaits and Rikki happens in wanting to save her is granted by Midori access and saves Mio. Now this might be vague in general.

The underwater part was sort of just artistic license. He wasn't really "transported" anywhere. It was all in his mind.

Also, LB's description mentions Riki's feelings for Rin? What? Does this mean a Rin ending is confirmed?

In the visual novel, he actually almost drowned and Mio

BUT yeah there was the artistic part with Riki + Midori + Mio when Riki reaches for the dove and everything. He's imaging all of this while he's underwater, though.

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Jan 16, 2013 11:48 AM

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SleepingEntity said:

Yumekichi11 said:
I don’t have time to write out what I really want to write. I will try later on. Seeing it twice. This is my take on it.

About the reality side of things, Mio tell Rikki she does not want to live in this world and suicides by drowning herself in the waters, which happens a lot in Japan as a suicidal method. Rikki saves her by getting her before she sinks too deep.

About Key Magic, Midori transports Mio into a deep sub dimension or deep underwater place. This made me think of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Water_(2002_film)
Where Mio awaits and Rikki happens in wanting to save her is granted by Midori access and saves Mio. Now this might be vague in general.

The underwater part was sort of just artistic license. He wasn't really "transported" anywhere. It was all in his mind.

Also, LB's description mentions Riki's feelings for Rin? What? Does this mean a Rin ending is confirmed?

You know I did not have time but for you I show. In the spoiler

was a very nice foreshadow of that love. Notice the 2 bird kind of like kissing by suddenly turning their peaks towards each other? Yeah IMO that is a foreshadow of Rikki's love notion.

Also so it was in his mind OK but all in real time was that he was in the water stopping Mio from drowning, yes?

Vladz0r said:

SleepingEntity said:

Yumekichi11 said:
I don’t have time to write out what I really want to write. I will try later on. Seeing it twice. This is my take on it.

About the reality side of things, Mio tell Rikki she does not want to live in this world and suicides by drowning herself in the waters, which happens a lot in Japan as a suicidal method. Rikki saves her by getting her before she sinks too deep.

About Key Magic, Midori transports Mio into a deep sub dimension or deep underwater place. This made me think of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Water_(2002_film)
Where Mio awaits and Rikki happens in wanting to save her is granted by Midori access and saves Mio. Now this might be vague in general.

The underwater part was sort of just artistic license. He wasn't really "transported" anywhere. It was all in his mind.

Also, LB's description mentions Riki's feelings for Rin? What? Does this mean a Rin ending is confirmed?

In the visual novel, he actually almost drowned and Mio

BUT yeah there was the artistic part with Riki + Midori + Mio when Riki reaches for the dove and everything. He's imaging all of this while he's underwater, though.

Well with Midori's powers as a shadow, it's quite possible if she wanted to show Rikki something that she wold do it in her master's way, that of Mio.

I was surprised that Midori did not turn out more aggressive and contained.

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Jan 16, 2013 12:56 PM

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Didn't cry, but damn I had some feels this episode. This anime has gotten me really interested in the VN, so I started it last weekend. Doing Komari's route right now since I heard that route was cut a bit in the anime. I didn't really like Mio all that much (didn't dislike her either, but she just seemed a little less interesting to me) but after these last couple episodes with her I think I like her a lot more now.

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Jan 16, 2013 1:16 PM

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Nice ending to a pretty sad arc!

The girls are going to make Riki their 'toy' next episode eh? ^^

Jan 16, 2013 7:45 PM

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When am I actually going to cry at this show like I did with all the other Key shows. :/

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Jan 16, 2013 8:08 PM

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Either in Haruka's arc or the last arc of this series which we called it Refrain.

Jan 16, 2013 8:44 PM

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Either in Haruka's arc or the last arc of this series which we called it Refrain.

Kud route gets pretty sad too.... but only in the bad ending... bah... I always like Kud's bad ending more over her good ending, the bad ending is just plain better story writing.

Jan 16, 2013 9:44 PM

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it was pretty good but i just dont really care for mio. i like haruka and rin way better as far as the heroines go. also any episode without masato makes me sad. :(

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Jan 16, 2013 10:31 PM

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This was a well adapted arc in my opinion with no major weak point. The story was powerful, perhaps a bit under explained but it managed to get the point across.

While I didn't have much of a response to this arc, I actually liked the writing and it definitely had a more saddening tone to it, the underwater scene was a nice artistic touch and also the poem's meaning was deep.

Jan 17, 2013 3:35 AM

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Kud route gets pretty sad too.... but only in the bad ending... bah... I always like Kud's bad ending more over her good ending, the bad ending is just plain better story writing.

IKR that Kud's Bad End is way better but of course there's a reason why it's called Bad End.

Jan 17, 2013 8:10 AM

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blasterion said:

Kud route gets pretty sad too.... but only in the bad ending... bah... I always like Kud's bad ending more over her good ending, the bad ending is just plain better story writing.

IKR that Kud's Bad End is way better but of course there's a reason why it's called Bad End.

But it's gotta be like the best bad end ever

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Jan 17, 2013 2:08 PM

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To the question of the number of episodes, we'll need at least 6 to 8 episodes for Refrain (plus 3 or 4 for Rin), and other routes like

will need to be made into an ova like with Tomoyo and Kyou's route in Clannad. There's no way this series will be just 26 episodes.

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off topic: Sasami and Kyou are cute, but Female Protagonist is the best
tldr: I like your taste.

Well, thank you. I'm pretty sure my tastes aren't kind of bashworthy except the fact that I love Tsunderes which some or most of the people tend to hate them.

megafresh5 said:
To the question of the number of episodes, we'll need at least 6 to 8 episodes for Refrain (plus 3 or 4 for Rin), and other routes like

will need to be made into an ova like with Tomoyo and Kyou's route in Clannad. There's no way this series will be just 26 episodes.

It is obvious and I can see that Kurugaya's arc and Kud's arc are on this season.

Also, it's already confirmed that this series will go beyond 26 episodes.
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=511559

More importantly, if you're referring that EX heroines' stories(Some regular heroines as well like Kurugaya) should be in a single OVA, there's no hell of a way it can fit. Especially Saya's.

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will need to be made into an ova like with Tomoyo and Kyou's route in Clannad.

yeah... but part of their story are explain in main story like

. it just their ending that didn't. and of course one single OVA of Kurugaya's or Kud won't be enough.

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megafresh5 said:
will need to be made into an ova like with Tomoyo and Kyou's route in Clannad.

yeah... but part of their story are explain in main story like

. it just their ending that didn't.

Indeed. That's why they tried to cram it into a single OVA.

Jan 17, 2013 3:57 PM

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saya movie would be cool

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Jan 17, 2013 4:20 PM

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saya movie would be cool

Complete with all the

Jan 17, 2013 4:24 PM

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i think this mio arc somehow feels strange. something like unrealistic. but i like how it is put in the story.

so in the end mio will not bring along her umbrella anymore? gosh.. i thought it will be her identity or something lol..

and the next episode... looks like we will see some fanservices again lol

Jan 17, 2013 5:54 PM

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saya movie would be cool

really want to know how good saya is... excited so much... haha XD

Jan 17, 2013 6:06 PM

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Saya's story is really good. It's on the same level or exceeds the level of Refrain.

At least 2 Movies about Saya's story is enough.

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