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| Something quick that came to mind. When Little-Gai had the gun, he was aiming at the star on the tree. Did Mana pull out a gun and shoot him, or did she rig the gun to backfire, or did he just shoot himself for whatever reason? @Above, no, she didn't die, apparently she was in the preview for the next episode which I cannot for the life of me find. |
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| I think she rigged the gun to backfire @.@. |
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AirTote said: Something quick that came to mind. When Little-Gai had the gun, he was aiming at the star on the tree. Did Mana pull out a gun and shoot him, or did she rig the gun to backfire, or did he just shoot himself for whatever reason? @Above, no, she didn't die, apparently she was in the preview for the next episode which I cannot for the life of me find. If you look at the gun after he shot, You can see the gun is all fucked up. The bullet probably exploded wrongly in the chamber and metal debris flew out and hit him. She probably tampered with the bullet or gun to make that happen before hand. |
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| I hope they have that soundtrack that played during the whole entire last scene in the OST. If not I will be pissed. That sounded so cool. |
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| I can puzzle through the backstory now, and it explains some of what is going on--but where the hell do we go from here? Obviously insane doctor is not the final boss, and since in retrospect the evil plot was to bring back "crazy" Mana and replace the human race with a new model (Sort of like Blood+ except not as well written) what happens now? Does Shu become the leader of Undertaker and drive the occupying forces out of Japan? Is there still power in the rock to be fought over? Is it possible that evil genius #2 (or #3) will bring back Mana (and Gai) for another attempt? At this point I'm watching mostly for the music, but I'll stick around a few more episodes to see what happens. |
Please don't feed the trolls! In my next life I want to collide at the corner with the cute transfer student carrying a piece of toast in her mouth...rodac |
| Wait did I read right? Or was my subs wrong? "The time when Ouma Haruka took Shu in" so he's adopted? There's incest now but the incest is not quite incest because the characters relationships are all over the floor? x_x Anyway I'm still confused whether this was an awesome episode that represents the "now definitely without a doubt" series get better or just... Extremely weird and bizarra (Mana seemed a good villain, she's already out? With Gai? Who's the kid? Shuuichiro died? deny everything you heard before cuz now all changed! lol). I'll keep forever believing "in the next episode things will get good" in that way... XD |
| Epic....this thread that is. As for this episode, well, it was a completely different show entirely with them eyeballs and the marriage and stuff. And....that's not a good thing you know. One moment the buildup and all the revelations and POOF....gone. We're gonna go on reset I bet(no I don't watch the previews). Seriously, that's just bad writing. It's like they aren't even trying anymore. But I'm gonna stick till the end coz there's still something about thinking how this will go from bad to worse continue and how this will end. Plus, it's a shame to pass up reading the threads here and not being able to follow the things talked about. goes back to lurk moar. Carry on please |
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| wow, that was extremely rushed. That could've easily used a few extra eps to explain things. The show still entertains me though. It's kinda sad that watching the haters and fanboys of GC argue on this fourm is more entertaining as well. |
| What. The. Fuck. |
| This show has a seriously flawed narrative. |
| So Gai and Shoe were best friends? LOLWUT Mana wanted to do her brother? LOLWUT Shoe and Gai were at the epicentre of the Lost Christmas "explosion" but didn't get obliterated? LOLWUT Souichiro's a pedo? LOL Shoe can actually draw someones void without them fainting? THANKS FOR TELLING US NOW GAI! I'm glad they're actually trying to explain things now, but frankly, its half-assed. I always like when writers use the 'erased it from their own memories' excuse, cause it shows that they've gotten lazy. I'd also like to see the next generation of humans. Hundreds of retarded inbred children, birthed from the same parents YAY!. Man, I love Guilty Crown, it never fails to impress me ;) Now its taken the weird route lol. And wtf kind of name is Triton? Oh look! some random kid on the shore! LETS CALL HIM TRITON! :D Like thats gonna be the first thing you can think of naming him... even if she was some Greek mythology major or something. :S Rant, rant, rantrantrant. :DDD |
| My intial reaction to this episode is basicly the same as my reaction to epsiode 6. Too Much, Too Fast. There were some really good revelations, plot twists and backstory in this episode. But they were crammed into a single episode. It would have been better if this had been spread out over another episode and expanded on. Instead, some of this episode's elements came across as Ass-pulls, which bordered on another Dus Ex-Machina moment. We knew from the start, from Episode 1, that Shu was screwed up. But to have blocked out the exisitence of an older Sister and his best friend. To do so as completely as he did. Screwed Up is an Understatement. Don't know what to make of Mana. This is why I would have liked to see this episode's events spread out over two or more Episodes. She was one of the first victims of the AV. She went from loving big sister to wanting to have Shu's children. Ic. ic. ic. There is just too much that needs to be explained better. With episode 12, the second book comes to a close. Not that this is a book... But, this feels like the ending of a book turned into a 6 episode anime series. Just like episodes 1-6 felt like they were book 1, of a series. Episodes 7-12 are like the second book of the series. I wonder what Book 3 is going to be like? |
| Summoning Dark: "What kind of human creates his own policeman?" Watcman: "One who fears the dark." "And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction. "Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be." |
Karhu said: Is this some type of a joke or what the hell? There is no words to describe how ridiculous this is. QFT. This episode made absolutely no sense in a large number of ways. I like how the writers conveniently forgot that when a void is drawn out, the person loses consciousness. Also Inori disappears after Shu catches her the first time, allowing him to have free hands to stab Gai with her void. Then he escapes in a magical bubble the creation of which is never explained since the last time we were able to defy gravity with bubbles it required the void of a character not present in this scene. And all this was just the last five minutes of the episode -- lets say nothing of what looked like rewriting the character's entire history so he and Gai were old friends. |
| WOW. Just when I thought they couldn't throw in any more cliches, the do the "So you remember" card. WOW. And HOLY FUCK I CALLED THIS INSTRUMENTALITY BULLSHIT. I told you. And then, incest. I forsee more of it in the future. This is fucking hilarious. Segai continues to be the only interesting character. At least Gai has motivation for the shit he's done. But they waited way too long to reveal it. So now holding hands with someone while pulling out their void magically leaves them conscious? WTF. Why'd you get the magical flying bubble, Shu? HOWEVER... I will admit that you at least made me feel something this time. I'm such a sucker for tear jerkers. Even though it doesn't make any sense why this elicited any emotional response from me at all. Made me change my tentative score from a 3 to a 4. But that still does not excuse the ass pull fest. I think I figured out how to make me like this series: Kill off all the characters, one by one. The only one I won't ever cry about in a billion years is Shu. |
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| I really wanted to like this anime :'( really I did, but its turning into a train wreck now. That was the most cliched thing I have ever seen. Complete with the ending. It felt like we missed out on 20 episodes or something, and this is the final arc. Personally I feel the length of the series is too short :/ if it was 2 "seasons" (50 eps) I feel they could do a better job. There's just too much stuff in Guilty Crown to adequately cover now. So we end up with Episode 12. Credit to them for waking up and realizing the anime's half over(how most single season anime w/plot fail). But cmon -_-. Well, at least they got that out of the way..lets see what the last 10 episodes are like. |
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DraconisMarch said: You forgot EVIL SHU. He's cool too.Segai continues to be the only interesting character. Oh yeah no offense but someone move their ass to the studio and present them a letter of totally doing shit wrong explaining all of the complaints here. I am sure they would be shafted by it. But anyway just someone send something to the studio telling them they are doing shit wrong. Doubt it will happen but it would be cool. |
Yumekichi11 said: Vaguely, except we don't know anything about him yet. (Watch his backstory be something extremely retarded.)DraconisMarch said: You forgot EVIL SHU. He's cool too.Segai continues to be the only interesting character. And his eyebrows REALLY piss me off. |
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AirTote said: It's here:@Above, no, she didn't die, apparently she was in the preview for the next episode which I cannot for the life of me find. http://www.guilty-crown.jp/story/#12 to all for the PV. |
| Just thought of something. Why can Inori's blood slow down the Apocalyptic Virus and Stop the Crystallization process if she was created to be the new body for Mana? |
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| Chill it, you mongrels! Stop asking Why and What! We have fucking 10 more episode left so if you are going to rant or hate wait until then, goddammit! |
Vallaw said: So if Gai's void can make other people's voids come out, why doesn't he use it on eyebrows guy, rendering him unconscious? Didn't think of that actually haha, but then again, why not just use a normal gun and skip the middleman? lol Nocturcity said: That episode failed to bring out ANY emotion in me. Same here. I have no idea how someone compared Gai's death to Stuartxtr7 said: That was awkward as shit. It's like she was going for a kiss, but then realized "Fuck, I'm stuck with this faggot now" and started crying. LOL xD |
Tomodachi5 said: Yeah she did, she want bat shit insane like Yuno due to thinking that Gai might still be a threat to her relation with Shu. Did you not even hear it? She says that she loves Gai and then lies. Can I also show you:If you look at the gun after he shot, You can see the gun is all fucked up. The bullet probably exploded wrongly in the chamber and metal debris flew out and hit him. She probably tampered with the bullet or gun to make that happen before hand.  yeah that is not exactly normal really. So fact is fact that Mana though of disposing of Gai through nasty means. |
| The episode felt extremely rushed, almost like they wanted to end the show in a cliche, open ended way and then decided to keep going anyways. I don't even know what to expect of the next 10 episodes. Enjoyable nonetheless if over-the-top drama isn't a deal breaker. |
| The only way to defeat characters in Guilty Crown is for them to be disintegrated. It isn't like dragon ball Z however, they don't go to a spirit world, they just vanish forever :) 4/5 this weeks episode. Hoping that with Gai gone Shu will step up and become a man. |
DraconisMarch said: Oh so the face design, too bad. I still think he's better than Shu but yeah we need more time for him.Yumekichi11 said: Vaguely, except we don't know anything about him yet. (Watch his backstory be something extremely retarded.)DraconisMarch said: You forgot EVIL SHU. He's cool too.Segai continues to be the only interesting character. And his eyebrows REALLY piss me off. |
| Gai being so young kind of ruins his character for me, a bit. Still a great character, though. |
| "My tables-meet it is I set it down That one may smile, and smile, and be a villain." |
| I guessed that Mana was related to Shu in one way or another but i never would have guessed that the plot between them would go that way; however i still felt with that aside it was one of the best episodes yet because it all came together and it leaves me wondering where the plot will go; there are anime that suck because the plot is nonexistence or to inconsistent then there is anime that suck because they are predictable; this anime could be the former but after everything goes to hell (concerning the city) and Gai dies i can't really call what happens next predictable anymore. |
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| Amazing how they rushed the entire past of 3 main characters out of nowhere in one episode, jfc -.- Meh, enjoyable nevertheless. 4/5. |
Nocturcity said: That episode failed to bring out ANY emotion in me...I still hate Inori and that Incest flashback was my favorite part. Pretty much the same for me, only the Incest part was good on this ep. |
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| all i can say is moving - truly one of the best episodes ever!!! surprises galore - really love how this is developing - but where from here? i'm continuously surprised by the amount of people who don't like this - i guess most people these days just love to deconstruct instead of just enjoy - to each their own........... |
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octal9 said: Never mind that! What about the city in the following,all i can say is moving - truly one of the best episodes ever!!! surprises galore - really love how this is developing - but where from here?  How to clean that up? How to account for all the deaths. How to even fix any of this at all. It's like a SC game happened and the Zergs got killed off and the remains of their base. TBH I don't think it will be easy to clean up. Loads of Apocalypse shards all invested everywhere. This city might be done for. |
| everyone seems to not like the show or the episode but i just keep craving more. and gai wasn't my fav character but i still think it sucks he died. mana i didn't give an f about. incest out of nowhere was a nice bonus too. NavyCherub said: Gai being so young kind of ruins his character for me, a bit. Still a great character, though. i thought he was older too so i was kinda bummed about that |
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| Wait...wait! what did i just watch?! supahhh powahhh everywhere, is this a RPG? Mana= incestous shouta hunter. she probably raped little Gai.*shivers* Shu= here´s my conclusion after 12 eps: shu is not good at defending people. he is not not good at defending himself. But he is good at stabbing people and crying. Inori= seriously...does that means she is having pseudo incest with Shu? and the most badass decent chara, the reason why i watched this show satisfied, is gone?! and in such a lame way?!what was the point of making him have chemistry with the rich blonde girl? oh and two childhood little friends in the middle of a destructed city, where did i see that...oh right. Code geass. |
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dfsafsaf said: ppl just seem love to hate this show I totally agree with you. If people dont like it, they could just stop watching it. the end. |
| Epic soundtrack got even more epic. In all greatness, I do wonder how the show proceeds. It still was an excellent episode, though. |
Kadryel said: I dont see why people are hating on this show... People are thinking too much when they watch those kind of show... I guess everyone like stories where no main character dies even in the middle of an appocalypse because it would be a shame if one of your favorite character died (see pretty much every high rated show)... I second this. There is a fitting anime for your description where no main character die and we call that Bleach. |
| Double-edged Episode, just like the show itself. All of this could be pretty awesome and touching. But the series doesn't really have enough consistency, to expect the viewer to like it. Like it's just sayin "hey, I'm full of plotholes and missing substance, but you have to love the important parts!" |
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| Damn it, Guilty Crown. I still had faith in you a couple of weeks ago. I stood by you despite your silliness and bad characters, and took pleasure in the gorgeus visuals, over-the-top-action and flat out fantastic soundtrack. I said to the haters "you're overreacting, just view it as dumb spectacular fun!". But in this episode you finally did it. You killed the joy. You took the ABSOLUTE WORST route to proceed the story - mainly reveal that the main characters already knew each other and just forgot about it. It really is one of the laziest ways to put a twist in your story. And on top of that, you killed Gai. Twice. If he was gonna die this episode, why bother pretty much killing him in the previous one also? But still, I will stand by you Guilty Crown, until the very end. But now the smirk on my face is gone, replaced by a pissed off glare. You can STILL save yourself from utter mediocrity, but I dare not hope. Not anymore. |
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