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Denwa said: vinesage said: Rail_Tracer said: I just started reading the VN last week. Even though I do find it very interesting, I must admit I fell asleep maybe more than 20 times before getting to the point where murders start. -_-' (once the murder began its really fascinating)Jesus, don't you people ever stop complaining about this anime adaptation? We get it, you hate DEEN and this adaptation. Don't like it, don't watch it. Simple. Go back reading the VN if you like it better. There is definitively a lot more than in the anime, and some details seem different. The biggest difference I notice so far has to be the characters themselves. Reading the VN let you know A LOT more about each character, for example I think I have become to like Hideyoshi and Eva much much more than in anime. They are really a funny couple~ anyway, as far as Im now in VN (end of EP1) I still prefer the anime form cause its just less tiring for me to read the whole bunch myself, and I'd love to see some action and hear Beatrice's evil cackle. (maybe I'd prefer an audiobook better though), but at the same time i cant help but wish the anime adaption would get better than it is now, because base on my impression, the anime doesnt really do the story justice. So I think it is understandable that some VN readers feel to need to complain sometimes~ Just keep reading it, it gets better. Like I've said before, the first episode is the least entertaining to most. Though, keep your eyes open for things that where mentioned in later episodes. I heard ALOT was foreshadowed in earlier episodes. Heck the goats were foreshadowed even if it was just a joking thought of battler's IT STILL CAME TRUE XDDD |
Darklight0303 said: Denwa said: vinesage said: Rail_Tracer said: I just started reading the VN last week. Even though I do find it very interesting, I must admit I fell asleep maybe more than 20 times before getting to the point where murders start. -_-' (once the murder began its really fascinating)Jesus, don't you people ever stop complaining about this anime adaptation? We get it, you hate DEEN and this adaptation. Don't like it, don't watch it. Simple. Go back reading the VN if you like it better. There is definitively a lot more than in the anime, and some details seem different. The biggest difference I notice so far has to be the characters themselves. Reading the VN let you know A LOT more about each character, for example I think I have become to like Hideyoshi and Eva much much more than in anime. They are really a funny couple~ anyway, as far as Im now in VN (end of EP1) I still prefer the anime form cause its just less tiring for me to read the whole bunch myself, and I'd love to see some action and hear Beatrice's evil cackle. (maybe I'd prefer an audiobook better though), but at the same time i cant help but wish the anime adaption would get better than it is now, because base on my impression, the anime doesnt really do the story justice. So I think it is understandable that some VN readers feel to need to complain sometimes~ Just keep reading it, it gets better. Like I've said before, the first episode is the least entertaining to most. Though, keep your eyes open for things that where mentioned in later episodes. I heard ALOT was foreshadowed in earlier episodes. Heck the goats were foreshadowed even if it was just a joking thought of battler's IT STILL CAME TRUE XDDD And Battler also called Kinzo Goldsmith in EP1 and Kyrie mentions "The North Wind and The Sun" And there's some foreshadowing for EP5 stuff too |
| I still need to finish the VN, but I'm so confused. ....... There is so much that I want to know ;; |
| Very good episode that totally changes the perception we had of the game, well directed (although animation was a bit weak) and with a great sense of rythm. I really wonder where the two last episodes will lead us after such great and useful developments. Oh and shut up VN fans, we don't care that the VN was different, better, more developped, astonishingly great or whatever, since the anime and VN are not in the same format and do not use the same codes or production model. And it's not DEEN's fault that you think the anime is less interesting than the VN since Ryukishi07's participating to the script for the anime also... Use your head for once and stop comparing visual novels and animation series, it's pointless and silly. |
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Jacut said: Very good episode that totally changes the perception we had of the game, well directed (although animation was a bit weak) and with a great sense of rythm. I really wonder where the two last episodes will lead us after such great and useful developments. Oh and shut up VN fans, we don't care that the VN was different, better, more developped, astonishingly great or whatever, since the anime and VN are not in the same format and do not use the same codes or production model. And it's not DEEN's fault that you think the anime is less interesting than the VN since Ryukishi07's participating to the script for the anime also... Use your head for once and stop comparing visual novels and animation series, it's pointless and silly. So it's pointless to have our hopes of good scenes getting animated faithfully? Wow you must watch original anime's only as in no video game, manga or eroge or visual novel adaptations. Otherwise you would know. PEOPLE ALWAYS COMPARE THE ORIGINAL TO THE ADAPTATION AND YES THEY DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO BITCH ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE ADAPTATION LET THEM DOWN. Also this is a forum. Last I checked the title of this thread was not: Umineko no Naku Koro ni episode 24 PRAISE/KISS ASS thread. No it's called a discussion. We the VN readers have just as much right to be here as any other fans. And we have the right to talk about how the Anime fucked us over. You are in no position to tell us or ANYONE as a matter of fact, to shut up. Learn your place. |
Darklight0303Dec 11, 2009 5:30 PM
Darklight0303 said: So it's pointless to have our hopes of good scenes getting animated faithfully? Wow you must watch original anime's only as in no video game, manga or eroge or visual novel adaptations. Otherwise you would know. PEOPLE ALWAYS COMPARE THE ORIGINAL TO THE ADAPTATION AND YES THEY DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO BITCH ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE ADAPTATION LET THEM DOWN. Also this is a forum. Last I checked the title of this thread was not: Umineko no Naku Koro ni episode 24 PRAISE/KISS ASS thread. No it's called a discussion. We the VN readers have just as much right to be here as any other fans. And we have the right to talk about how the Anime fucked us over. You are in no position to tell us or ANYONE as a matter of fact, to shut up. Learn your place. Really? Get a life. One day you'll think about what you just posted, and realize how ridiculously entitled you sound. Do you have a "right" to complain about how let down you feel about an adaptation of a source material you probably didn't buy? Sure. I guess I'll give you that. The problem is when you forget that this is an adaptation. DEEN gets creative license to do whatever they want. And they have. Honestly, I could have done without a lot of what was presented in this show, but like me, you don't have a clue about how it all turns out. You just want your handjob when they animate your favorite scenes. There is a difference between discussing what happened in an episode, its merits, and what could have been better adapted, and just plain fanboy whining. Have some perspective, and recoginze that you're not yet in a position to really say if anything they've done ruins the story. |
noteDheroDec 11, 2009 6:06 PM
| The only merit this episode has is the gore and one of the BGM's |
Darklight0303Dec 11, 2009 6:31 PM
| I actually took the chance and read what was in your spoiler tag. All you're doing there is blind speculation. And honestly, I don't think that the manner in which George is killed is more important than the plain fact that he died without explanation in a random room just like in all the other game boards. The fact that he is dead is more important than the wound itself. The mystery surrounds the culprit and the elaborate plan, not so much the physical wound, unless it's particularly fantastical. I thought this was quite apparent after the first episode, but I guess I'm wrong. Or maybe you can't divorce your fervent expectations from logical thought. I'll bank on the second one. |
| So you rather go with a gaping hole in the stomach instead of a small one in the head which can be used to disclaim the involvement of magic (which you seem to refuse acknowledging as a factor at all) with extreme ease. |
Darklight0303Dec 11, 2009 7:05 PM
| What about this show has been easy so far? The whole idea of the show is how much the author can convolute a plot to keep people from guessing his intentions. |
Darklight0303 said: So? If anything, it just helps support the notion that the fantasy scenes are not what they appear to be. |
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Jacut said: Very good episode that totally changes the perception we had of the game, well directed (although animation was a bit weak) and with a great sense of rythm. I really wonder where the two last episodes will lead us after such great and useful developments. Oh and shut up VN fans, we don't care that the VN was different, better, more developped, astonishingly great or whatever, since the anime and VN are not in the same format and do not use the same codes or production model. And it's not DEEN's fault that you think the anime is less interesting than the VN since Ryukishi07's participating to the script for the anime also... Use your head for once and stop comparing visual novels and animation series, it's pointless and silly. Took the words right out of my mouth. I'm sick of these bitchy vn fanboys complaining in every thread about the littlest of things. |
| Pretty much everyone who read the VN, loved it. It's honestly rare to see someone who read it and didn't find it amazing. Seeing that a lot of people don't really care about this anime and that it's ranked #300 something, I'd say DEEN failed at capturing what makes Umineko good. |
LunarEmeraldDec 11, 2009 9:05 PM
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Denwa said: But do you not notice how many VN readers complain about how horrible and terrible the episodes are? Fixed. One of the things I'm hearing mostly is the Goat-Kun scene. Yeah, as if that scene was so damn important. |
PsychFreak said: Episode 25 preview I love Kasumi's and Evatrice's troll faces. dioptase said: Nice spoiler in your preview, DEEN. Are previews really spoilers though? They are supposed to get viewers to watch the next episode/tell them what happens next. They aren't giving away the plot or anything. |
| That was really sick but awesome when George and Jessica killed each other. |
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| Unfortunately DEEN frequently gives away the plot in their previews, lol. |
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| The spoilers could be a lot worse. |
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| Good point. unless they plan to cram that up in the last episode >_> Beating in the preview looks appropriately painful though the troll faces made me laugh XP |
| We can only hope that's what will happen. |
MarthX said: The spoilers could be a lot worse. I pray that DEEN won't screw up that scene. Warning : major spoiler |
| I wonder how many people will give in to the temptation to click that spoiler and hate you for it XDDDDD well it would be their own fault so :P |
| Not sure what to make of that last pic in the spoiler as I still haven't had a chance to play the VN but then again I already know most of the spoilers anyway because of a certain someone. =P In any case......this adaption is probably way more superior than the "it-should-NEVER-have-been-done" anime adaption of Tsukihime. >> |
| LOL. Not that that would be difficult. Tsukihime's adaptation was just atrocious. =_= |
Darklight0303 said: LOL. Not that that would be difficult. Tsukihime's adaptation was just atrocious. =_= What are you talking about? There is no Tsukihime anime. |
| i can't wait until this ends, and not in a good way. |
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dioptase said: Darklight0303 said: LOL. Not that that would be difficult. Tsukihime's adaptation was just atrocious. =_= What are you talking about? There is no Tsukihime anime. ah yes that's right. It was just a dream. I forgot that for a moment. |
| Beato really was angry, huh? I'd like to go there too~  |
Tosi ystävyys ei jäädy pakkasella! Thank you for your visit. Welcome again! |
Toragono said: Beato really was angry, huh? I'd like to go there too~ Indeed that was a beautiful garden. |
Denwa said: The anime version of dreamenddischarger actually sounds pretty good, but it's still not better than the original. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OneH19EzkxE |
| woah the first track of the Anime OST. I LOVE the vocals @____@ We need a thread for the OST I believe >_> |
Darklight0303Dec 12, 2009 7:27 AM
| Did the anime ost come out??? :D :D :D oh my god, dreamenddischarger sounds amazing!!! |
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| Yes it did. Someone on LJ even uploaded it 8D so far I must say the best tracks on the album are the anime original ones and 1 maybe 2 remixes. The rest is just not up to par |
| Hurray, I just found the download with my google-fu! Is it true the Worldenddominator remix isn't on there though? I've loved the anime-only music, so I'm really looking forward to the ost ... |
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| that's right there is no Worldenddominator remix |
| Woah track 24 I can't remember when that plays in the anime but I LOVE it @_@ |
| oh yeah I'm dancing all over the place to the remix of あかいくつ偽!!! I can't believe there's no Worldenddominator though. They used it multiple times and I did like the remix. We really do need an ost thread :D :D :D |
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| LOL,the most stupid thought just passed my mind : Beatrice ( in a Darth Vader like voice) : Battler...*heavy breathing*...I am your MOTHER ! :))) This is Umineko no Naku koro ni so everything is possible . As idiotic as it may sound, I expect even something like that . |
Don't talk to me about character development if Kaizuka Inaho or Slaine Troyard are in your favorites. |
| given the stuff she says and does with Battler in episode 2 alone, that's HIGHLY improbable. Though it's a good theory for lulz XD |
| First half wasn't too interesting. Second half sort of caught my interest. gapgapgapgapgapgapgapgapgap |
HakuaDec 12, 2009 10:59 AM
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