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| I think one episode for the island and the first half of the next for Natalia would be good.The second half could either be Kiritsugu with Maiya and Iri or Rider and Waver. And everyone seems to hate Maiya.Why?Because she helps Kiritsugu win the war? |
ssjokg said: I think one episode for the island and the first half of the next for Natalia would be good.The second half could either be Kiritsugu with Maiya and Iri or Rider and Waver but that would be kinda weird well considering how they crammed this episode its not impossible that they will fit shirley and natalia in 1 i dont get why anyone would hate maiya either in fact i dont get why people would hate any character other than zouken or sola |
BloodRequiemApr 28, 2012 7:45 PM
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
BloodRequiem said: ssjokg said: I think one episode for the island and the first half of the next for Natalia would be good.The second half could either be Kiritsugu with Maiya and Iri or Rider and Waver but that would be kinda weird well considering how they crammed this episode its not impossible that they will fit shirley and natalia in 1 I dont think that it would be so weird if after the flashback they go with Kiritsugu's mansion scene.And we(at least those that didnt read the LN )are supposed to learn about Kritsugu.Kirie had almost entire episodes for that while Emiya had like 3 scenes of character development and thats counting ep 16. |
| Ye, I'm also curious how they will do with the Kiritsugu's distant memories. They been doing a really good job so far, and I hope they will keep on doing that. Kotomine Kirei and his smirk. Just wow. I just can't wait to see more of his insane plans coming episode, especially Gilgamesh's battle with other masters. ;] And Saber got a bike, which was "present" from Kiritsugu. I was a bit surprised about that when I read the Novel to be honest. x] |
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Siclo said: Xayoz said: Willpower != backbone. You're right, rape victims just need to man the fuck up and fight back. Are you kidding me? This is more misconstrued than the idea that clinical depression is something that can just be shrugged off. It's like you don't even have the slightest idea how it is to deal with real trauma. which is why we think he is just trolling |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
| Gilgamesh one of the most powerful servants and Kirei the only one who was a major Threat to Kritsugu now Master and Servant..lol things should get quite interesting now. shame for Tokiomi he didn't seem all that bad but at first i thought he was Pretty much asking Kirei to end his life there but that wasn't the case. |
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BloodRequiem said: i dont get why anyone would hate maiya either in fact i dont get why people would hate any character other than zouken or sola I dont hate Sola but since she didnt love kayneth she could just stay away from him and the war.I know it was a magus family thing but she didnt have to follow him.I dont like her or hate her but if you compare her to any other character she just doesnt fit in.damn it even Ryuunosuke had more reasons for entering the war than she did.As for her love for Lancer,his curse is to blame. |
ssjokg said: BloodRequiem said: i dont get why anyone would hate maiya either in fact i dont get why people would hate any character other than zouken or sola I dont hate Sola but since she didnt love kayneth she could just stay away from him and the war.I know it was a magus family thing but she didnt have to follow him.I dont like her or hate her but if you compare her to any other character she just doesnt fit in.damn it even Ryuunosuke had more reasons for entering the war than she did.As for her love for Lancer,his curse is to blame. im just saying that its understandable to hate those 2 characters but maiya...really? |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
ssjokg said: I dont hate Sola but since she didnt love kayneth she could just stay away from him and the war.I know it was a magus family thing but she didnt have to follow him. Are you certain that you actually watching Fate/Zero? Kayneth Archibald El-Melloi as a master and Sola-Ui Nuada-Re Sophia-Ri as mana-battery for Lancer doesn't ring any bell? |
ArqentumApr 28, 2012 8:11 PM
Arqentum said: ssjokg said: I dont hate Sola but since she didnt love kayneth she could just stay away from him and the war.I know it was a magus family thing but she didnt have to follow him. Are you certain that you actually watching Fate/Zero? Kayneth Archibald El-Melloi as a master and Sola-Ui Nuada-Re Sophia-Ri as mana-battery for Lancer doesn't ring any bell? and she didnt have to accept that.That's what I am talking about.Why would you help someone that you dont love win a war? |
ssjokg said: BloodRequiem said: i dont get why anyone would hate maiya either in fact i dont get why people would hate any character other than zouken or sola I dont hate Sola but since she didnt love kayneth she could just stay away from him and the war.I know it was a magus family thing but she didnt have to follow him.I dont like her or hate her but if you compare her to any other character she just doesnt fit in.damn it even Ryuunosuke had more reasons for entering the war than she did.As for her love for Lancer,his curse is to blame. I think her participation was Kayneth's idea, that whole thing where she provided the prana for his servant freeing him up to use his full potential as a magus was supposed to be his trump card. |
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ssjokg said: Arqentum said: ssjokg said: I dont hate Sola but since she didnt love kayneth she could just stay away from him and the war.I know it was a magus family thing but she didnt have to follow him. Are you certain that you actually watching Fate/Zero? Kayneth Archibald El-Melloi as a master and Sola-Ui Nuada-Re Sophia-Ri as mana-battery for Lancer doesn't ring any bell? and she didnt have to accept that.That's what I am talking about.Why would you help someone that you dont love win a war? it was like a political marriage between 2 magi families magi are pretty conservative |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
| I mentioned that.... |
ssjokg said: Arqentum said: ssjokg said: I dont hate Sola but since she didnt love kayneth she could just stay away from him and the war.I know it was a magus family thing but she didnt have to follow him. Are you certain that you actually watching Fate/Zero? Kayneth Archibald El-Melloi as a master and Sola-Ui Nuada-Re Sophia-Ri as mana-battery for Lancer doesn't ring any bell? and she didnt have to accept that.That's what I am talking about.Why would you help someone that you dont love win a war? She probably accepted it for the same reason she accepted the arranged marriage with Kayneth(to do what's expected of her and please her family). And once Lancer was summoned any qualms she had probably disappeared. |
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Topgunuk69 said: And once Lancer was summoned any qualms she had probably disappeared. Yeah not gonna argue with that.But still why?Well I always hate it when someone is forced to do something because of their status. |
belatkuro said: And in this episode the seal was shown to still be on Kotomine's right hand (when he was with his dead papa), but after that it disappeared. Nothing on his left hand either. That's the only reason I mentioned that they may have changed it. But I guess we'll find out wut ufotable is doing in a couple episodes. If the original seal is never shown again then it can't be called an error anymore.DaisyDuck3008 said: Yes I know but in episode 12 we saw it return to his right hand. Sure they changed the position where it returned but they have to at least stick to the original scenario that Kirei used his own Command Seals instead of the ones from the supervisor/his father.Monochrome said: In the LN it says that the two Command Seals are on his LEFT lower arm and the Command Seals of Risei are on his entire RIGHT armIn the first half they did forget to draw command seals on some of the character's hands, I only noticed with TV/BD comparison shots, so it may just be an error. Though it seems weird to forget it with such an important scene. Unless they merged or something in the anime? Still weird. |
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Monochrome said: belatkuro said: And in this episode the seal was shown to still be on Kotomine's right hand (when he was with his dead papa), but after that it disappeared. Nothing on his left hand either. That's the only reason I mentioned that they may have changed it. But I guess we'll find out wut ufotable is doing in a couple episodes. If the original seal is never shown again then it can't be called an error anymore.DaisyDuck3008 said: Yes I know but in episode 12 we saw it return to his right hand. Sure they changed the position where it returned but they have to at least stick to the original scenario that Kirei used his own Command Seals instead of the ones from the supervisor/his father.Monochrome said: In the LN it says that the two Command Seals are on his LEFT lower arm and the Command Seals of Risei are on his entire RIGHT armIn the first half they did forget to draw command seals on some of the character's hands, I only noticed with TV/BD comparison shots, so it may just be an error. Though it seems weird to forget it with such an important scene. Unless they merged or something in the anime? Still weird. i think it just merged with the ones on his arm cuz in fsn no 1 noticed any command spells on kirei's hand |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
| Stop applying your mediocre emotion-based judgment over something you can't even barely understand. Emotion is never a good thing. Nothing based on it will stand last long. Mage's Association basis is purely devoted to one thing: The Root. Nothing. Else. Matters. The time when they will begin to care 'bout individual 'feelings' will be the first day of their fall. ... crap it. Just re-watch Kirei & Gilgamesh dialogue 'bout the wish Tohsaka have. Kotomine Kirei said: Those of us interested only in the Interior of this World can only understand it as a 'pointless-sounding plan' F/Z ep.6 (17:49) |
| From my speculation, Rider's gonna be the next one killed but I hope not. I liked him. |
Arqentum said: Stop applying your mediocre emotion-based judgment over something you can't even barely understand. Emotion is never a good thing. Nothing based on it will stand last long. Mage's Association basis is purely devoted to one thing: The Root. Nothing. Else. Matters. The time when they will begin to care 'bout individual 'feelings' will be the first day of their fall. ... crap it. Just re-watch Kirei & Gilgamesh dialogue 'bout the wish Tohsaka have. Kotomine Kirei said: Those of us interested only in the Interior of this World can only understand it as a 'pointless-sounding plan' F/Z ep.6 (17:49) read the LN Watched 1st season twice... The fact that they believe that they are right doesnt mean they are. "Stop applying your mediocre emotion-based judgment over something you can't even barely understand." So everyone here judges them without using their emotions....riiight. Should I just say" ok they are right" without question it? |
Arqentum said: Stop applying your mediocre emotion-based judgment over something you can't even barely understand. Emotion is never a good thing. Nothing based on it will stand last long. Mage's Association basis is purely devoted to one thing: The Root. Nothing. Else. Matters. The time when they will begin to care 'bout individual 'feelings' will be the first day of their fall. ... crap it. Just re-watch Kirei & Gilgamesh dialogue 'bout the wish Tohsaka have. Kotomine Kirei said: Those of us interested only in the Interior of this World can only understand it as a 'pointless-sounding plan' F/Z ep.6 (17:49) You're so damn edgy I almost cut myself responding to you. Understanding the character's motivations and reasoning doesn't mean you have to agree with or admire them. |
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InfiniteDestiny said: Saw it coming from a mile away; so it wasn't really a surprising backstab but still Kirei finally shows his true colors that have been implied till now; kinda wondered about that goodbye to Rin scene tho...wasn't In any case next episode seems like it might be Kiritsugu's past which i wouldn't mind at all since to me he is even more complex than Kirei; or at least has the potential to be. Quick question, how many command seals does Kirei actually have now? i mean the norm is to have 3 right? but i think its safe to say that he has more than that now... Yea it was rather predictable but I still loved it; I'm guessing Kirei has a ton of command seals now. Maybe this is why he was able to control Lancer as well as Gilgamesh in Fate/Stay Night. |
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dashiawia said: InfiniteDestiny said: Saw it coming from a mile away; so it wasn't really a surprising backstab but still Kirei finally shows his true colors that have been implied till now; kinda wondered about that goodbye to Rin scene tho...wasn't In any case next episode seems like it might be Kiritsugu's past which i wouldn't mind at all since to me he is even more complex than Kirei; or at least has the potential to be. Quick question, how many command seals does Kirei actually have now? i mean the norm is to have 3 right? but i think its safe to say that he has more than that now... Yea it was rather predictable but I still loved it; I'm guessing Kirei has a ton of command seals now. Maybe this is why he was able to control Lancer as well as Gilgamesh in Fate/Stay Night. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
Topgunuk69 said: Arqentum said: Stop applying your mediocre emotion-based judgment over something you can't even barely understand. Emotion is never a good thing. Nothing based on it will stand last long. Mage's Association basis is purely devoted to one thing: The Root. Nothing. Else. Matters. The time when they will begin to care 'bout individual 'feelings' will be the first day of their fall. ... crap it. Just re-watch Kirei & Gilgamesh dialogue 'bout the wish Tohsaka have. Kotomine Kirei said: Those of us interested only in the Interior of this World can only understand it as a 'pointless-sounding plan' F/Z ep.6 (17:49) You're so damn edgy I almost cut myself responding to you. Understanding the character's motivations and reasoning doesn't mean you have to agree with or admire them. by what he is saying he must mean that: Tokiomi really is a good father. Zouken is an even better grandfather and father Caster and Uryuu were just having fun. I could use characters from other anime too but anyway Ok I should accept all of them and stop being a human being |
ssjokg said: by what he is saying he must mean that: Tokiomi really is a good father. Zouken is an even better grandfather and father Caster and Uryuu were just having fun. I could use characters from other anime too but anyway Ok I should accept all of them and stop being a human being Tokiomi is a really a good father. He cares 'bout his family unlike Zouken. The difference is - Zouken is immortal, hence he does not need a family which can achieve what he has not in future generations. He need tools to bring him what he desires. Since when using logic equals cutting, ripping, smashing and cleaving people? Caster and his master are both mad, they are driven by their desire (which is an emotion). Topgunuk69 said: You're so damn edgy I almost cut myself responding to you. Understanding the character's motivations and reasoning doesn't mean you have to agree with or admire them. The key word is "understanding". Be careful do not cut yourself, take this: [Soft Keyboard Fingerguards]. |
ArqentumApr 28, 2012 9:04 PM
| SIMPLY AMAZING the dialogues in this series is just outstanfinly great. Best series ive watched so far. |
| you dont make sense do you realize that. you say that we cant judge them depending on emotions but you just said that Caster was wrong..why dont you try to understand him? If you yourself choose which one to understand then dont tell me what to do either. and wanting to reach the Root IS a desire the magi have. I tried to understand Zouken and Tokiomi and many other characters.I feel different towards everyone because I judge their beliefs depending on my emotions/beliefs.If that wasnt the case I wouldnt care for the outcome of the war or any other story anime or not. |
| so Kirei finally did it, dat smirk of him was creepy as hell. flashback next ep, hope they won't drag it the whole ep though. |
Lumathy said: so Kirei finally did it, dat smirk of him was creepy as hell. flashback next ep, hope they won't drag it the whole ep though. Actually they should. |
Lumathy said: so Kirei finally did it, dat smirk of him was creepy as hell. flashback next ep, hope they won't drag it the whole ep though. the flashback thing isnt like the rin bs its actually legit important |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
| Great episode, can't wait for next one. |
| Well the episode was fun. And going through these past 7 pages of spoilers was even more fun. Well, they weren't really spoilers as none of it will ever show in Fate Zero. I hope they animate Sakura's route, or maybe I'll have to do a bit of wikiing to satisfy my needs. |
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| the interaction between gilgamesh and him are always so interesting. but god damn this guy did a 180. |
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Kurogashi said: Well the episode was fun. And going through these past 7 pages of spoilers was even more fun. Well, they weren't really spoilers as none of it will ever show in Fate Zero. I hope they animate Sakura's route, or maybe I'll have to do a bit of wikiing to satisfy my needs. plz dont use the wiki.Find the game and download the save points for Sakura's route. Way better feeling |
| The discussions between Gilgamesh and Kirei were quite interesting. However, Tokiomi's death didn't actually have as much impact as I had expected it to. When do we get some bike + Saber action? |
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Kurogashi said: Well the episode was fun. And going through these past 7 pages of spoilers was even more fun. Well, they weren't really spoilers as none of it will ever show in Fate Zero. I hope they animate Sakura's route, or maybe I'll have to do a bit of wikiing to satisfy my needs. either download the visual novel or read the "screenshots" here but really i suggest the visual novel for the music and overall enjoyment http://fsn.seorinwastaken.com/archive/index.html |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
BloodRequiem said: Kurogashi said: Well the episode was fun. And going through these past 7 pages of spoilers was even more fun. Well, they weren't really spoilers as none of it will ever show in Fate Zero. I hope they animate Sakura's route, or maybe I'll have to do a bit of wikiing to satisfy my needs. either download the visual novel or read the "screenshots" here but really i suggest the visual novel for the music and overall enjoyment http://fsn.seorinwastaken.com/archive/index.html I took a look at it...yeah the VN would be a lot better |
BloodRequiem said: Lumathy said: so Kirei finally did it, dat smirk of him was creepy as hell. flashback next ep, hope they won't drag it the whole ep though. the flashback thing isnt like the rin bs its actually legit important yeah I know what those flashbacks are important for ppl to understand Kiritsugu, just personally not a fan of whole ep flashback. |
ssjokg said: BloodRequiem said: Kurogashi said: Well the episode was fun. And going through these past 7 pages of spoilers was even more fun. Well, they weren't really spoilers as none of it will ever show in Fate Zero. I hope they animate Sakura's route, or maybe I'll have to do a bit of wikiing to satisfy my needs. either download the visual novel or read the "screenshots" here but really i suggest the visual novel for the music and overall enjoyment http://fsn.seorinwastaken.com/archive/index.html I took a look at it...yeah the VN would be a lot better the link i provided is mostly used to provide anti-faggotry material when someone makes a statement like "hurr durr lancelot can beat hercules" |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
| Kotomine is a sadistic ass. And I love him for it. |
Lumathy said: BloodRequiem said: Lumathy said: so Kirei finally did it, dat smirk of him was creepy as hell. flashback next ep, hope they won't drag it the whole ep though. the flashback thing isnt like the rin bs its actually legit important yeah I know what those flashbacks are important for ppl to understand Kiritsugu, just personally not a fan of whole ep flashback. if handled nicely flashbacks can turn really good.I hate them too when they are unnecessary(Like naruto in the last chapters) |
| Great episode but I expected more from Tokiomi's death. I feel like his end could've been done better, and not hearing the inner thoughts of characters is also a big problem. Gilgamesh was able to accomplish his goal and unleash Kotomines true nature. Can't wait until next episode though, really looking forward to Kiritsugu's past |
Ragna92Apr 28, 2012 10:57 PM
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| I loved how Kirei and Gilgamesh were teasing each other :) Tokiomi's dying face was priceless but I do feel bad for him. He was a good father. |
| A word of thanks to Kotomine Kirei... He makes Kiritsugu look like a true hero LoL. I loved every minute of Kotomine's two-faced plan, he really made the story that much more exciting. Not to mention, he has the most powerful Gilgamesh as his right hand too now. That scene with Tokiomi and Rin parting was kind of sad, I knew Tokiomi was going to get killed, it was just a matter of how. His ideal student stabbing him in the back with the same gift he bought for him, how evil. (In an entertaining way) Also...FINALLY, we will get a full out flashback on Emiya Kiritsugu. I was waiting for this since the first episode and a lot of unanswered theories of mine will finally be accounted for. I can't wait. Iri-kun and Maiya's conversation was kind of disheartening. Although, now I see why Kiritsugu had her tagging along Saber all this time. He killed two birds with one stone; the first being keeping his identity a secret and the second was prolonging his beloved's health. I respect that man to endless means. Oh yeah, SAAYBA ON A BIKE FTW! |
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| Thanks for the link. Which chapter/route can I find out where Lancelot beats Hercules? And there's no ero in this site! I skipped to those sexy pages and nothing! Booo! edit: oh wait a second, I can watch the shit on that site! why would i need to download it! awesome! edit2: how come the video doesnt all match up with the chapter names... confused. ok, i'm guessing those video titles are wrong and are not in order and the guy who made the site is trolling... SIGH |
KurogashiApr 28, 2012 11:05 PM
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Ragna92 said: Great episode but I expected more from Tokiomi's death. I feel like his end could've been done better, and not hearing the inner thoughts of characters is also a big problem. well Tokiomi's death wasn't meant to be very dramatic though, it was over before the man himself even aware that he's dead. But yeah not knowing the inner thoughts is a turn off since it showed that Tokiomi is not a bad father. |
Kurogashi said: Thanks for the link. Which chapter/route can I find out where Lancelot beats Hercules? And there's no ero in this site! I skipped to those sexy pages and nothing! Booo! edit: oh wait a second, I can watch the shit on that site! why would i need to download it! awesome! edit2: how come the video doesnt all match up with the chapter names... confused. ok, i'm guessing those video titles are wrong and are not in order and the guy who made the site is trolling... SIGH there is no lancelot vs hercules battle just using it to prove hercules' feats thats why i still recommend the game cuz that website isnt meant for a substitute for the original source but more like a reference in debates |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
| Kirei is da shit, nuff said! |
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| Lol the dagger Rin coveted all that time was the dagger that killed her father. |
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