The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (light novel)
| Basically what i learned from the Endless Eight arc is that Kyon repeated the same 2 weeks over 15,000+ times until he finally finishes his homework... |
| I loved it. I'll admit, I'm kind of a sucker for these "summer themed" episodes because it reminds me of my summers in high school. Nice weather, hanging out with your friends, all fond memories. As far as I'm concerned this arc was re-runs of one of my favorite episodes, which was just fine with me. But I also think this is probably one of the most important arcs/episodes in the entire anime as far as the movie goes. It really makes you feel for Yuki (seriously, you had to sit through the same 23 minutes 8 times. She had to sit through 2 WEEKS 15,000 times, WITHOUT the option to fast-forward or any assurance when or if it was going to end) and that makes Disappearance that much more impactful. Is it entirely necessary to watch all 8? No, but you're robbing yourself a better experience in the end :D (Just want to say, I've watched the anime 3 times through now and every time I've watched the Endless Eight all the way through. I really enjoy it that much lol) |
| To a huge Haruhi fan, they might find the enjoyable. But to normal fan like myself, I find it a huge waste of time. |
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| I'm watching them right now and on part 4 an ready to kill myself WTF is the reason for 8 of them. |
| I didn't have mal when I first watched this but this is still the most annoying this ever to me. such a waste imo |
| I liked the concept, but it really needed to be 3 episodes max. I was quite shocked to see that for such a popular series, that they would waste 8 episodes to practically repeat the same episode. |
| I think the staff are slacking. This episode remind me of Space Dandy. Where they tought they can preditct future. So stupid. Haha .. And I really have fun where Asahina-san <classified Information> while they <classified information> and <classified information>!! I really <classified information> |
maelstrom16Jun 15, 2015 10:40 AM
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| I think the endless 8 was a great idea, I personally had never seen it before. It kind of puts you in Yuki's position on how boring it would have been repeating it over and over. |
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| I laughed so much when I watch the endless eight arc because I wondering why did they put so much effort into trolling us? it's basically the same content but with different cut scene in each episode and they did it for 8 episode. It could worth all they repetition if the climax were a bit more 'climatic'. I do find it boring, enraging and needless but still I respect Kyo Ani for pulling this random stunt perfectly. |
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Requinix said: I didn’t hate the episodes because I think it was a great concept just the execution was a bit off. You may say: but you got different angles and different dialogue combine with different clothes however that was not the problem for me...There need to be major differences between the episodes and there has to be some kind of progression. Or how about doing the different episodes from different characters' points of view? I understand what the producer where trying to do (make us feel the same way Kyon,Yuki and co. felt when they learned the truth about the loop)In my opinion the problem here is that we never had the opportunity to see Koizumi or Mikuru inner thoughts, feeling about the whole ordeal unless you count body language and that kind of expression wasn’t enough for me. Sure you may say Yuki only gave that kind of expression and it work and I say to that yes but it was because Yuki (expression less girl) is a recorder who’s only function is to record everything without interfering so for her character it works since we got to see little by little how she crumble under the situation not because she isn’t incapable of solving the situation but because she is not going to interfere on the other hand for the others apart from Kyon not so much, hey! we all know that Koizumi & Mikuru are in a more support kind of approach that watching mode to Haruhi shenanigans and that is why we needed at least 1 or 2 episodes from the perspective of them to work for us by breaking the same pattern that we got in those 8 episodes since by episode 4 of the EE we understood the concept and the magnitude of the situation that the SOS were in, it’s that we never got the opportunity to go inside the head of Mikuru & Koizumi to feel their despair. Imagine if the staff used Miku & Koizu perspective not only you flesh more the characters but you also have an opportunity to animate the other variations that Yuki mentioned via interference from Mikuru or Koizumi to try to escape the loop. The famous what if? Nuff said… |
Roy_FockerJul 10, 2015 12:23 PM
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| It's frightening how people actually defend this. |
| Yeah, it's tedious, but, you know... it's been six years. I have the option to skip it now, so there's really no reason to get furiously mad over it anymore. |
| ok watched them but skimmed through |
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| Anyone who put this anime as completed on their list and didn't watch the entire endless eight arc is a fucking liar |
OrangeJPMay 22, 2016 6:26 AM
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OrangeJP said: Anyone who put this anime as completed on their list and didn't watch the entire endless eight arc is a fucking liar To be fair, as long as they saw the first episode, any of the middle episodes, and the ending to the last episode then they HAVE seen the entire thing. So they aren't lying :p |
SMU_PonyMay 22, 2016 5:28 AM
| Complete trash. I can respect the arc in the same way I can respect someone eating a light bulb. Good job ruining your show. I appreciate the effort, but you still ruined it. And before anyone smugly says "Well, if you thought it was bad for 8 episodes then imagine how bad it would be to watch it for 500 years like Nagato", you could have had the exact same effect by making the loop 3-4 minutes long and looping it several times an episode. You didn't make me sympathize with Nagato, you just made me give the show a 1. |
| Ok,, found something good from someone review. Endless Eight Arc - Enough Said? The entirety of the season can be summed up almost in much the same way as the first season, so i am going to focus my attention on the Endless Eight arc of this season. This arc seems to be the part most mentioned in reviews and in most cases negatively so. It is also the most prominent memory we have of the season when you mention the 2nd season. Eight episodes of the same events, over, and over again. Everyone can agree that this was not a cheap measure to save money. since the animation, clothing, and scene of every event were unique to each of the eight episodes. But hatred still seems to fill the hearts of the viewers about this arc. Indeed it is long and boring over time. But like how FLCL must be completely confusing to get it's point across, so must this be the way of Endless Eight. This arc is the lead up to the movie "The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya" For those of you who've read the novels or have done your research you should already know this, but if not well now you know. This arc was intended to bore bore you. it was designed to make you angry. But what can you do? you are only the viewer of this show. you can only sit there and hope the next episode will advance the plot. sounding familiar? if you have not guessed already the main character of this arc is not actually Kyon. Although the show is told through him It's Yuki we should be paying attention to. Ms. Nagato, the alien computer interface placed on earth as an observation tool unaffected by time loops or altered realities. she has the omnipotent power to know all and to do all, the only catch? she cannot do anything. her job is simply to observe and assist when absolutely necessary. now in order for us to fully understand this we'll also need to understand the philosophy behind Artificial intelligence and how it works. but to keep it simple, intelligence is intelligence. Be it natural or artificial it will learn and develop things called emotions. we are not born with emotions. they are learned, just like data being collected, compiled and processed. It is inappropriate even to call it "excess" data build up. For us humans the compilation of data for emotions happens between age 8 and 18 this is when we try to establish what everything is to us. Yuki has entered as an AI into this stage of her life. and it is a confusing and frustrating time. now you're angry having to sit through this 8 times. each time is ~25 minutes for us. Now then, lets do the math shall we?(sort of, not really) those 25 minutes each represent in that universe 14 days, an entire 2 weeks. Those two weeks have repeated, in one of the episodes the number was, 15,521 times. Yuki has sat through not only 15,521 episodes, rather she has sat through that many iterations of a 14 day cycle. Imagine how frustrated and angry she must be. Not only did he anger the fans, it was his exact intention to do so. the same effect cannot have been achieved with 3 or even 5 episodes. If this arc did not completely piss you off it would have failed to deliver the emotions of the characters in the story. Tatsuya Ishihara, i salute you for this bold move. |
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Esper said: Ok,, found something good from someone review. Endless Eight Arc - Enough Said? The entirety of the season can be summed up almost in much the same way as the first season, so i am going to focus my attention on the Endless Eight arc of this season. This arc seems to be the part most mentioned in reviews and in most cases negatively so. It is also the most prominent memory we have of the season when you mention the 2nd season. Eight episodes of the same events, over, and over again. Everyone can agree that this was not a cheap measure to save money. since the animation, clothing, and scene of every event were unique to each of the eight episodes. But hatred still seems to fill the hearts of the viewers about this arc. Indeed it is long and boring over time. But like how FLCL must be completely confusing to get it's point across, so must this be the way of Endless Eight. This arc is the lead up to the movie "The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya" For those of you who've read the novels or have done your research you should already know this, but if not well now you know. This arc was intended to bore bore you. it was designed to make you angry. But what can you do? you are only the viewer of this show. you can only sit there and hope the next episode will advance the plot. sounding familiar? if you have not guessed already the main character of this arc is not actually Kyon. Although the show is told through him It's Yuki we should be paying attention to. Ms. Nagato, the alien computer interface placed on earth as an observation tool unaffected by time loops or altered realities. she has the omnipotent power to know all and to do all, the only catch? she cannot do anything. her job is simply to observe and assist when absolutely necessary. now in order for us to fully understand this we'll also need to understand the philosophy behind Artificial intelligence and how it works. but to keep it simple, intelligence is intelligence. Be it natural or artificial it will learn and develop things called emotions. we are not born with emotions. they are learned, just like data being collected, compiled and processed. It is inappropriate even to call it "excess" data build up. For us humans the compilation of data for emotions happens between age 8 and 18 this is when we try to establish what everything is to us. Yuki has entered as an AI into this stage of her life. and it is a confusing and frustrating time. now you're angry having to sit through this 8 times. each time is ~25 minutes for us. Now then, lets do the math shall we?(sort of, not really) those 25 minutes each represent in that universe 14 days, an entire 2 weeks. Those two weeks have repeated, in one of the episodes the number was, 15,521 times. Yuki has sat through not only 15,521 episodes, rather she has sat through that many iterations of a 14 day cycle. Imagine how frustrated and angry she must be. Not only did he anger the fans, it was his exact intention to do so. the same effect cannot have been achieved with 3 or even 5 episodes. If this arc did not completely piss you off it would have failed to deliver the emotions of the characters in the story. Tatsuya Ishihara, i salute you for this bold move. I agree. I felt sorry for Nagato. And I don't unterstand the dislike for Endless Eight, when there are anime, whose entire premise is some kind of time loop. |
| You're a louse, Roger Smith. - R. Dorothy Wayneright This is my fight! No Senpai, this is our fight! - Kojou Akatsuki & Yukina Himeragi  |
| I honestly thought I was clicking on the same episode, at this time I used to watch anime on YouTube so I had to keep checking the title to make sure I didn't replay an episode. It got a little boring but I mainly had to idea what was going on. |
| Kind of liked how the camera angles would still change even if the event was the same, plus the occasional differences were interesting. But overall it should have been half the length, 1st episode as normal, 2nd episode where they discover the loop, 3rd episode showing the same thing as 2nd episode (basically how episodes 3-7 were), and 4th episode where they break the loop. It still would maintain the same effect, but without KyoAni sucking their own dick as much. |
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| Just finished the 2nd season and I've to say: It was the best part of it, imo. :) |
 ~Mirror, tell me something~ |
| Absolutely terrible but I still watched the whole thing for whatever reason And then I watched it again a few months ago. |
| "I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says. I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby". "She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other." |
its_just_me_unno said: i fucking waaaaaaaaatched nearly all of em but now im tired what episode does it stop on ughhh Season 2, Episode 5 (Episode 19 if you consider the one anime with both seasons :3) :3 |
"No matter what painful things happens, even when it looks like you'll lose... when no one else in the world believes in you... when you don't even believe in yourself... I will believe in you!" |
poppyface said: Absolutely terrible but I still watched the whole thing for whatever reason And then I watched it again a few months ago. What do you mean it's really good, although they did the same things over and over again that makes you cheer for them to succeed :3 lol I watched it too ;3 |
| "No matter what painful things happens, even when it looks like you'll lose... when no one else in the world believes in you... when you don't even believe in yourself... I will believe in you!" |
Coreylordo said: HOLY SHIT THAT WAS A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME! WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING!?!?! THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN 3 EPISODES TOPS! I WOULD HAVE LIKED IT THEN! You could have stopped watching it then if you really disliked it so much -w- You can't please everyone that's a fact :3 |
UltimateDeathJan 6, 2017 3:29 AM
| "No matter what painful things happens, even when it looks like you'll lose... when no one else in the world believes in you... when you don't even believe in yourself... I will believe in you!" |
MkayShock said: Just finished the 2nd season and I've to say: It was the best part of it, imo. :) Good for you ;3 Remember to watch the movie it's really great ;3 |
| "No matter what painful things happens, even when it looks like you'll lose... when no one else in the world believes in you... when you don't even believe in yourself... I will believe in you!" |
| Spend 3 minutes on each episode after the second one... (so I basically skipped 90% of the episode).. This arc should have been around 3 episodes, 4 at maximum. |
| I'm new to anime and this would be my second randomly chosen series to watch after finishing Tales of Zesteria. I ran across this last night and binged through all 8 episodes. I liked this in part because it reminded me of one of my favorite Star Trek TNG episodes "Cause and Effect" where the Enterprise was stuck in a Causality Loop and they had to figure out what to do differently to get out of it. I was excited, it was the exact same thing. I hated this mostly because nothing really changed until the 8th episode, and this reminded me of annoying Seth McFarlane tropes of running so-so jokes far into the ground, past the molten lava of the Earth's core underground. I mean, I kept waiting for Kyon to piece something slowly together over the course of 8 episodes. They had so many opportunities to, he always noticed Nagato looking bored, he always watched her buy the mask, he always almost talked to her about something, he always had that somber realization that she had endured 15k repetitions of the past two weeks...I felt like the writers were dangling that carrot out in front of us and they never did anything with it. Every episode ended the same, with no progress to finding the truth. And then in the last moments of episode 8 the reveal, which was one of my guesses going back to probably episode 3 or 4, was brought on suddenly, even throughout episode 8 they never really explain Kyon's thought process that led him to this solution. So my opinion is this could have been done alot better. 8 episodes could feel like trolling, but it could also serve to give the viewer a small taste of the experience the time loop caused, reinforcing it. But to make no progress up until the last moments of episode 8 was disappointing, because unlike the characters except for Nagato, at least they couldn't remember watching the last 7 episodes. |
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| Got through 5, 3 more to go (although I assume episode 8 is finally different). I was contemplating fast forwarding through these next 2, but I'm just gonna watch it properly at this point. This is pretty insane tho lol. I get it- I feel trapped with them and the despair-inducingness of this would make Monokuma proud... but like 8 episodes worth is WAY too much. If you wanna do something like this, hell 3 repeats would have been overkill. I mean, they don't even make the slightest bit of minimal progress towards getting out the loop each episode to give SOME feeling of progression. Not the slightest damn bit lol. It's weird, idk how it will/should effect my view/rating of the series at the end because (and I really enjoy the show so far) and if it continues to be great and wraps up satisfyingly to me, am I going to have to just ignore that I kinda hated a significant chunk of episodes haha? |
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