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| Ruler so hot in her casual outfit skirt & tie! 4/5. |
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I checked the profile before posting. I suggested Fate/Zero, because Fate/Stay Night has an abundance of generic elements found in each average harem or isekai series, and school teenagers too. Some people don't like the harem and Isekai series. But the ideal would be to watch Fate/Zero and stop there. |
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cblue22 said: This is my first time watching fate. If I was to watch the others which one should I start with? Definitely with Fate/zero, then Fate/stay night |
| And thus pandering towards the LN protagonist begins. Trying to draw parallel to FSN-Shirou is outright insulting because Shirou was a well written and complex character, at least, while Sieg is....that guy Siegfried was plot-device'd to save. Also Jeanne is not Saber. Stop trying to make her into Discount-Saber, Higashide. She is better character than this and deserves better than this. Can we just skip to relevant fights please? JGChaves said: I would also like to point out that unlike a certain character named Shirou, Jeanne doesn't actually believe that an "Everybody gets saved" ending is possible. She is kind but not naive. Except that Shirou never believed that either. He full well knew from the start it is impossible and was well aware that his actions are hypocritical. There's whole multiple page monologue about that right in the prologue of FSN. Shirou was never ever naive. Wanting something to be possible =/= Not knowing it is impossible. yeezuki said: cblue22 said: This is my first time watching fate. If I was to watch the others which one should I start with? Definitely with Fate/zero, then Fate/stay night If he wants to get spoiled completely on FSN surely, since Zero is meant to be seen last. |
AhenshihaelAug 1, 2017 3:15 AM
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| so it went anime original, they sure mixed and rushed things. Then referenced some ubw, what's even the point of it. It doesn't fit to Sieg since he doesn't have the same ideals as Shirou. |
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BlazeKing01 said: cblue22 said: This is my first time watching fate. If I was to watch the others which one should I start with? I'd honestly suggest starting with Fate/stay night first. Regardless of what people might think of the 2006 FSN anime, it's a decent enough starting ground. After that, you could go on to the 2014 Unlimited Blade Works anime if you wanted. Starting with F/Z would spoil a number of things that serve as twists to the original FSN such as Saber's identity which is kept secret until after a certain battle in the Fate Route. And in general, F/Z is obviously written with the mindset that you've already gone through FSN already. Going through the latter first then the former makes for a better overall viewing experience. yeah, best to watch in this order FSN > FSN UBW the movie > FZ, FSN UBW the series focus on the UBW rute but tells the all story again & thats why I prefer the movie, there are also Fate kaleid liner, Fate grand order & this one (Fate/Apocrypha) that split completely from the others & each other. |
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cblue22 said: This is my first time watching fate. If I was to watch the others which one should I start with? You can argue both ways, the only real answer is to read the VN first and then watch or read F/Z and F/HA for the source of it's popularity and what have you In regards to just the anime; For watching UBW (and HF) before Zero it's that F/SN was written 2 years before F/Z and is thus obviously meant to be experienced on that order, and F/Z spoils HFs shocking twists™ quite a bit On the other hand the anime of UBW/HF were made after F/Z, and ufotable has added some more references to the latter than were there in the original VN and LN, so you could argue they intend for FZ to be watched first, and theres also the fact that the HF movies could take years to come out Don't watch the 2006 FSN, it's bad, gives the wrong impressions about characters, lore and story, and spoils twists that were not meant to be shown in the Fate route. |
anilandrot said: Reverberate said: Rider is without a doubt best girl in this show so far. tfw best girl isn't even a girl. What a time to be alive. Oh god, I actually meant Ruler and not Rider. Fixed, lmao. |
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aliinetje said: It's this kid.Who is caster of black's master?  .......... |
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Fai said: I'm a retarded shitposter Wow, this is just like FSN. No name kid randomly gets involved in a magic war, randomly meets a super mage killer who helped him, randomly got a super magic item from super mage killer, randomly got revived by super magic item given by super mage killer, randomly change origin because of super magic item given by super mage killer. All that's left was the turning into a heroic spirit and shit, but you've got magical arm transplanting in the other routes, so it's not that different. Also, literally dies by turning into swords too. Fate was also filled with stupidly convenient events as well. The only MCs in the Fate series that don't have random shit on them are Ryougi, Tohno Shiki, and Soujuurou. Even the FGO Masters aren't random, they have actual purpose in Chaldea. |
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Game-Epidemic said: stop trying to act cool we know you disliked it cause your bitch isnt in the show I can't agree enough. I genuinely feel that DEEN's Fate adaptation is better than Apocrypha. At least with that the source material was good, but Apocrypha's source material is shit and it looks like shit. An utter disgrace to the Fate franchise. I'm glad people like it, but I really hope that this won't set the standard for Fate productions. Because it would be a comically low standard to set. With that said I'm dropping this show because it's fucking atrocious. |
Sadly it's accurate. The novel is really good, so i had high expectations, but so far, betrayed. It's not that i dislike, but all fate shows that i had the opportunity to follow while it was airing, i watched the episodes as soon as they were released with subtitles. But this doesn't happen with Apocrypha. And all Fate shows if not the best of their season, they were at least TOP 3, and currently apocrypha is not even in my TOP 5. I'm also watching Touken, UFO is the studio, and:  The image says everything. Much better animation, art, and fights as well so far. Bring back UFO. Heaven's Fell gonna be UFO thank god. |
alstreim14 said: Sadly it's accurate. The novel is really good, so i had high expectations, but so far, betrayed. It's not that i dislike, but all fate shows that i had the opportunity to follow while it was airing, i watched the episodes as soon as they were released with subtitles. But this doesn't happen with Apocrypha. And all Fate shows if not the best of their season, they were at least TOP 3, and currently apocrypha is not even in my TOP 5. I'm also watching Touken, UFO is the studio, and: The image says everything. Much better animation, art, and fights as well so far. Bring back UFO. Heaven's Fell gonna be UFO thank god. I haven't read the novel but I had high expectations, also I wished it to be more like manga, a bit more brutal. I'm not bothered by A-1's animation, but UFO's animation is clearly better. I lost faith in good animation long time ago because Japanese animation is dying. Although it could've been better it doesn't mean it's going to keep being like this, hopefully these episodes will lower expectations to make (next) episodes look brilliant. |
alstreim14 said: The image says everything. Much better animation, art, and fights as well so far. Bring back UFO. Heaven's Fell gonna be UFO thank god. That's not animation tho. That's literally a still of a non-motion frame that is usually designed to look good and have correct model proportions. Animation is movement. There's maybe one or two scenes that have good non-reused animation in Ufo's sword bishonen show. Apo might look offmodel a lot of times, but stuff like Moedred's fight against golems or the fight in the first episode still beats most of touken ranbu or zestiria(albeit Touken Ranbu feels like it has more creativity in animation than zestiria did). Karna/Siegfried fight was a bit more unrefined but it felt like A1 is trying to mimick Bones stuff there so it still was somewhat visually pleasing. Especially this bit |
AhenshihaelAug 2, 2017 9:52 AM
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I don't even remember him. |
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Game-Epidemic said: type your keyboard harder and dont call me a boy when i prob older than you "game-epidemic" lmaoComeAtMeWeebs said: stop trying to act cool we know you disliked it cause your bitch isnt in the show Yeah that's literally the only reason I dislike the show /s boy if you think this pile of shit is great more power to you |
| i thought he is homunculus lol |
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| Now that Sieg is under the protection of Ruler hopefully the black faction will leave him alone. Rider though is so cute in that she is so expressive with her emotions though lol. Still another servant giving his life to save someone sure is unusual though and the first time i seen this. The way that Sieg's entire purpose was laid out there by Darnic kinda makes it sad that Sieg is nothing more than a tool and nothing else. Ruler sure is both kind hearted and at the same time one that remembers the deeds of people that she has met. Her determination to uphold Siegfried's last wishes despite the odds arrayed against her is really something. Hmm so the man with green hair was actually a servant and is lancer of the black faction eh. I thought he was part of the family until now lol. But man Rider and saber really gave Sieg a chance though. And now with ruler protecting him Sieg can now have his own life. Hmm Shirou was the one that sent that probe eh. Wow Riders master is the one that will use torture to punish her servant eh. Choosing to not accept his death and continue to live is also another form of courage as well. Hmm taking part of Siegfried's name as his own in order to both honor him and also give himself an identity was a good move. Hmm despite her regal nature its funny to see that she still has normal issues like hunger though. Its nice seeing Ruler intruduce Sieg to being human though and also have a hand in developing his life as well. Hmm so Black assassin has become a rogue element eh. To think that Black assassin is actually just a young girl though. I wonder who the woman she is with is though. Hmm so Ruler's current body is that of a normal human one then since she couldn't construct her own body when she was summoned. So that was what the first scene of Ruler was about then. It does seem strange that she wasn't able to construct her own body though. There really does seem to be something weird about this war. Having someone rule over your life though is sad so i can see why Ruler is sad about that. I see Gordes managed to recover and is still as rude as ever. It was funny seeing him get lectured though. The relationship between master and servant is not as simple though as servants have personalities and beliefs after all. Ruler teaching Sieg how to smile though lol. And from this the connection between Ruler and Sieg has been made. Ruler is willing to defy fate and protect Sieg to prevent him from having to fight eh. Looks like there will be a battle against rogue assassin next episode then. |
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| NOW I understand why everyone is calling Jannu the waifu Her voice is just perfect and kind, she is the perfect waifu from this show second to frankenstein. |
Fai said: That's not animation tho. That's literally a still of a non-motion frame that is usually designed to look good and have correct model proportions. Animation is movement. There's maybe one or two scenes that have good non-reused animation in Ufo's sword bishonen show. Apo might look offmodel a lot of times, but stuff like Moedred's fight against golems or the fight in the first episode still beats most of touken ranbu or zestiria(albeit Touken Ranbu feels like it has more creativity in animation than zestiria did). Karna/Siegfried fight was a bit more unrefined but it felt like A1 is trying to mimick Bones stuff there so it still was somewhat visually pleasing. Especially this bit With all that said, the anime is evolving slightly each episode, slowly, but. As a novel reader, the events that will happen in the next episode is a good opportunity to "rock". Hope they take the opportunity. |
| Ruler is so damn sweet but I still couldn't care less for the homunculus. At least he gave himself a decent name. |
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StardustReverie said: Suddenly everyone is just completely fixated on the MC for no reason at all. What the fuck? Go save the others if you're concerned about these magic fucking circuit-beings so much. But no since it's the MC he's the only one that matters. Well said. But knowing how MCs are usually the one around whom the world revolves, it ain't surprising. Missed necromancer+Mordred so much... |
lyzzysempai said: What the heck happened to the nice Shiro?! I'm so confused. PS. WTF happened to his hair?! Are you even sure he's the same Shirou? lol |
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| Rider is a girl. I really don't care if they call her a guy, that is a girl and we all know it's a girl. Looks like a girl, acts like a girl, sounds like a girl, -- it's a girl. Hate the "draw a girl, call it a guy" trope. |
What I wanted to say was MCs in the Type-Moon series BlazeKing01 said: Also, are you comparing Sieg to Shirou in that first statement? Because comparing the two, Sieg is just... flat in general. It feels like the author was trying to replicate both Shirou and Hakuno and turn them into one character. Sieg has more in common with child Shirou just when Kiritsugu saved him for the fire, completely empty without any knowledge of why he was alive and he should do with his life, I really this trait because Sieg can become anything from this point on. To be completely honest, It was Siegfried who fited the roll of tragic hero with no regard for his desires, just like Shirou and Archer in the Original Fate Stay Night. frenze12 said: She was one of the heroic spirits that got buffed by the counterforce, which is basically why she even was summoned as a Ruler (as well as her unnatural summoning conditions). Are you sure she's the major agent used by the Counterforce in from Apocrypha? But the Counter Force empowering specific individuals is not ever explained that way. Especially in Apocrypha. It is true that most Apocrypha events Are there mostly motivated by the Counter Force. In short, Counter Force generates events centred often around a specific individual in order to empower him, such as, for example, X character was guided to absorb Y character's power which pretty much brings him back to life again, it jumpstarts his ability to transform into W character. The real fact is the Counter Force is using X character so that's why everything is bending over backward for him, which means one of the most important plot points and the reason for why everything happens to X character. frenze12 said: Aka it's all the counterforce doing. We can pretend that this true, at least in Fate/Apocrypha, since X character became a Saber after episode 4. |
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