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Jun 29, 2023 5:50 PM
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Is it Soul vs Soulless or Soulless vs Soul? Artificial soul? Forced soul? Better Call Soul? Dark Soul?
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Jun 29, 2023 5:55 PM
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I understand why people may be attached to the original design, but new one looks much better to me.
Jun 29, 2023 6:01 PM
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i really like the old design but the new one fit more with the light novel art style which is also good imo. I don't think we should judge the old or the new design, they are both good in their own way.
Jun 29, 2023 6:25 PM
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Yea, the original Spice and Wolf aged REALLY well on the art compartment I will say.
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Jun 29, 2023 6:55 PM
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Idk which is which, as I haven't watched the original yet.. tho I gotta say that both look great. But you can't judge that based of one picture.
Jun 29, 2023 7:38 PM
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Neither. New design is PASSIONATE (sorry)
Jun 29, 2023 7:47 PM
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something i used to like as a kid cause nostalgia == soul
anything else == souless

anime fans logic^
So embarrased with Tensura fans and the fandom, how have we degraded
Jun 29, 2023 8:13 PM
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definitely prefer the older design.
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Jun 29, 2023 8:50 PM
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calling the new design soulless would be like calling the LN/Manga design soulless as well.

That's how the characters are supposed to look according to the original materials.

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Jun 29, 2023 8:53 PM
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They should darken her hairs a bit more in the newer version. Rest everything looks fine.
Jun 29, 2023 9:18 PM

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The design is good since it matches the light novel and what not but the color design is questionable.
Jun 29, 2023 10:44 PM

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Rip_Oecuf said:
They should darken her hairs a bit more in the newer version. Rest everything looks fine.

it's common reaction, I remember people had same reaction for teen titans and ben 10 omniverse
Jun 29, 2023 11:12 PM

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We must trust Holo. She is doing what is best for the show. And when the anime is on, we must protect and defend Holo
Jun 29, 2023 11:13 PM
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HarrierDuBoisFan said:

Is it Soul vs Soulless or Soulless vs Soul? Artificial soul? Forced soul? Better Call Soul? Dark Soul?

I like the newer one. I watched the original years ago and I really liked it, but when I tried watching it again I couldn’t get through it because of the art style. But at the time of watching it I liked it
Jun 30, 2023 4:58 AM
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The new design is good but I still prefer the old one
Jun 30, 2023 6:08 AM

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I can't really make an opinion from PV alone because it's still work in progress, but I kinda preferred 2008 design better.
It just aged so damn well and still looks amazing.
New still looks very good from what we've seen, so it's still win-win.

Jul 1, 2023 11:42 AM

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I am concerned about them having her look too much like a child when the 'grown-woman' look was one of the things I appreciated about the original.
Jul 1, 2023 12:09 PM

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The new design looks less youthful.  I prefer the old design, but the new is not ugly.
Jul 1, 2023 3:03 PM

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Both designs are really good. I like the sharpness of the old one, but the new one looks a lot more like the LN.

The character do look a lot younger in the new one which I will have to see more to get an opinion on. I really hope it carries that same feel of the original with the old, dingy type of feeling in some of the cities. It made the cities feel very realistic with the times.
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Jul 2, 2023 6:56 AM
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If the mimic will remain as Strong as in the Original TV Adaptation, it doesnt Brother me. I Always thought that part Made the Charakters so charismatic in the First place. They especially nailed them with holo Back then. Still Love than f'inn smirk.
Jul 2, 2023 7:24 AM
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The new one should hopefully be better/easier to animate with
Jul 2, 2023 7:47 AM

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So far, I prefer the new design, but I'm not 100% sure without seeing how the characters move/act in an actual episode.
I will have a more definitive judgement on that when the new show will start airing.
Jul 2, 2023 5:11 PM
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Its prety obvius that they will use desaturated colors and 3d models so dont expect to much... Also they look like 2 difrent chatracters from difrent series...
Jul 2, 2023 7:46 PM
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how long are they gonna be able to swindle people with this copy paste model I have to wonder, judging by this thread we still have a while left of dark times.
Jul 2, 2023 8:25 PM
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Mei-o_Scarlett said:
something i used to like as a kid cause nostalgia == soul
anything else == souless

anime fans logic^

Yup, anime fans are dumb sometimes. I will never understand fans who complain when reboots actually decide to be faithful to the source material this time. The new design looks miles better.
Jul 2, 2023 8:37 PM

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Aquamine-Amarine said:
Mei-o_Scarlett said:
something i used to like as a kid cause nostalgia == soul
anything else == souless

anime fans logic^

Yup, anime fans are dumb sometimes. I will never understand fans who complain when reboots actually decide to be faithful to the source material this time. The new design looks miles better.
because its modern anime era
gotta complain about everything like their anime daddies
gigcuck and trashman and all the other youtubers
who cares if this is what theyve been always screaming about
like how every aniem totally NEEDS the fmab treatment of remake and faithful adaptation but when the time comes AND
it gets one
they start to bitch cause realsie itll ruined their nostalgia(S&W) or the series wasnt actually that good and they missed the point of the series and blame the production for ruining it(devil is a part timer)


cant wait for the soul eater or TG remake that everyone always yearns for
but it just has a minor flaw and these same fans asking for a remake will proceed to call the new product souless 
So embarrased with Tensura fans and the fandom, how have we degraded
Jul 3, 2023 2:33 AM
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I feel the old design better represents Holo. The old design has much sharper lines and more intense colors, for example around the eyes you have the much thicker eyelashes and stuff that I feel better shows her aggressive personality while also looking beautiful. Still, the new design looks much nicer and more modern and also I like the vibrance in her eyes I think that really fits her.
Jul 3, 2023 4:51 PM
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Mei-o_Scarlett said:
Aquamine-Amarine said:

Yup, anime fans are dumb sometimes. I will never understand fans who complain when reboots actually decide to be faithful to the source material this time. The new design looks miles better.
because its modern anime era
gotta complain about everything like their anime daddies
gigcuck and trashman and all the other youtubers
who cares if this is what theyve been always screaming about
like how every aniem totally NEEDS the fmab treatment of remake and faithful adaptation but when the time comes AND
it gets one
they start to bitch cause realsie itll ruined their nostalgia(S&W) or the series wasnt actually that good and they missed the point of the series and blame the production for ruining it(devil is a part timer)


cant wait for the soul eater or TG remake that everyone always yearns for
but it just has a minor flaw and these same fans asking for a remake will proceed to call the new product souless 
Its just low effort art, nobody would have given a shit if it was in fact accurate to the source material, but while you can argue its closer because the initial was so vastly different, its still a sanitized, simple, and cheap copy of all of their other models that was created then had the most basic details added to make it look close to her, rather than designing something specifically with her in mind. I'm sure the reason they make this low quality art is because its easier to animate, but I would much rather have half decent looking art than good animation. Maybe scroll down a few centimeters and look at all the shots the light novels have displayed right in front of us. Nobody would have uttered a complaint if she had looked like that.
Jul 3, 2023 11:41 PM
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New design is terrible. People complaining about people not liking new design "reee muh source material reee faithful adaption reee everyone has to liek this because I like scam reboot crap"
Jul 4, 2023 3:53 PM
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VilexRoss said:
I just want to see Holo.

same man, and hear her voice ( not in a weird way but her VA was talented at reflecting the mood)
Jul 5, 2023 9:27 PM
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Unfortunately, she looks like yet another barely legal anime bimbo in the new one
Jul 5, 2023 9:57 PM

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We're diving for the soul of a mass market machine, but it seems a question of attunement. I wouldn't know soul if I could drown its dying embers and crawl inside the husk. Perhaps it was something like Disco.
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What can I say except they both are good. New one is more closer to the LN art. It seems like they want the remake to be more accurate.
Jul 6, 2023 2:14 AM
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Not really surprised the art style changed it was going to happen either way
Jul 6, 2023 2:24 AM

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The original art looked more like the LN art to me. The newer one is a bit more generic imo.
Jul 6, 2023 5:13 AM
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Loved the original, also loving what I've seen of the remake so far. And there are cases where bad new material can also hurt the older material or take opportunity from it, but I don't think this would be one of them even if it were bad.
Jul 9, 2023 1:59 PM

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old one for sure, only thing i prefer about the new one is how her red eyes are more popping now. it's not terrible though, just weaker in comparison.
Jul 9, 2023 5:46 PM
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fancyjasper said:
The original art looked more like the LN art to me. The newer one is a bit more generic imo.
Seriously?

Back in late 2000s, that kind of arstyle was epitome of generic.
Jul 9, 2023 6:08 PM

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I like both designs but prefer the older version of Holo.

I do like that her eyes are more lively looking and brighter for the new design.
Jul 10, 2023 2:23 AM

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Elitist-chan said:
fancyjasper said:
The original art looked more like the LN art to me. The newer one is a bit more generic imo.
Seriously?

Back in late 2000s, that kind of arstyle was epitome of generic.
I wasn't saying the old style was super unique or anything. Just that it's more unique when compared to the new one. I don't care for either one much. 
Jul 26, 2023 8:21 PM
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The new design is based on the light novels, but I don't know if I like the colors yet. They have such a weird ... brightness to them?
Aug 8, 2023 1:39 PM
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The new one is almost objectively better.

Reason 1: Old timers might cry about it, but new generation anime just generally looks way better. Designs got generic in modern times, I agree, but the style itself is much better.

Reason 2: It’s more faithful to Holo’s original design in the novels, which is a major plus.

Reason 3: Animation is better, so she fells more alive than ever.

If this adaptation is done right, it will be more than soulful! People just can’t accept shit because of their trashy nostalgia.

Being faithful to the original absolutely comes first.
Aug 11, 2023 10:42 AM
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Would've preferred old one but new one is not bad, let's see what they do with it.
Sep 28, 2023 4:09 AM
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A art style change was to be expected, the anime industry has drastically changed since then.
Oct 3, 2023 10:23 AM
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While I really like the new design, the older one still holds up really well and just looks so good. They're both great, but for different reasons.
Oct 10, 2023 7:18 PM
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It has a soul and is in line with the light novel. In saying that, I always preferred Holo's design in the anime to that of the LN even if it was against the intent of the original author, both visually and in writing. Holo... Doesn't look like a girl in her mid teens in the original anime. She looks around 18 to 20. And, quite honestly, it meshed well with her character and behaviour. While I'm not going to avoid watching this because of the change to make her look about 4 years younger than she did, I'm still going to say I prefer the old design to the new one.
Oct 21, 2023 11:31 AM

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The new design is good but the old one is better, you can't feel the "furry" in the new design, she used to be furry-ish in OG, but the new visual makes her model softer. but let's see when the anime aired.
Oct 27, 2023 3:30 PM
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archaai said:
Unfortunately, she looks like yet another barely legal anime bimbo in the new one

That’s how Holo is described in the LN though.
Oct 27, 2023 6:53 PM
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Unfortunately, she looks like yet another barely legal anime bimbo in the new one

That’s how Holo is described in the LN though.
@Vinsi07 I mean it is a light novel so yes
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