| Do you think it deserves its current score? How much do you rate it and what you do think can change and improve it. I know that the anime isn't even over yet but the current one is 6.96 and as I check the score I noticed that every weak it changes drastically to worse. I give it a 3/10. The opening and the osts aren't something special. The story is edgy and badly-written. UMU's character development wasn't done right. The protagonist is HORRIBLE written just a blank dude that wins with the power of hate. |
| LOL, because MAL's "Zero and UBW are the only good things of Fate, also Ufotable is GOD" people are the real fans of Type-Moon right?(Not referring to every fan on MAL, just those whiny loud ones) Sorry if I offended anyone here but just because you don't like Extra doesn't mean it's bad, that's entirely subjective. You're still entitled to your opinion though. The reason this anime is "failing"(It really isn't) is because Nasu lied saying this anime could be appreciated even if you're new to Extra, when in reality no, not really, I mean, you CAN watch it for the mystery of the story but without the context behind the story of the original Extra, chances are more than 70% of people won't give a damn about the characters that get "killed off" every 2 episodes. If you're used to Fate(Visual Novels, Extra, Light Novels or Nasuverse itself), then this anime probably won't really be surprising to you, because everyone knows OG Fate was never about "flashy fights" but about lore, characterization and story, all things Last Encore has. But if your only experience with it is because of DEEN, Ufotable, A1pictures, FGO, and the thing you love about it most is the fights and the Servants, then yeah, this most likely will be boring to you. Last Encore focuses on the Masters instead of the Servants, but without knowing them from the game that will fly above your head. Extra also isn't spoon-fed to you like other fate anime are, if you don't pay attention and use your brain, you will be lost. Also aside from MAL and some people from /a/, this isn't even bad. For the record if you really want to see Type Moon fans opinion of Last Encore, go check Beasts' Lair. |
| This Anime is not for secondaries. It is a bad end/lost belt of the first Extra. I gave it a 7/10 because I understand most of it. Btw Hakuno is already a completed character. He got his characterization and development in the game. So did Nero. The only thing left is for them to adapt to the current situation, which they sort of did in the current episode. |
| Personally I kinda expected that MAL casuals will bury this show. It is after all what Fate really is about and originally it had a niche style. It's orientation changed once it got animated and people simply tend to like this basic fight- based type of storytelling. Also it's not as "newcomer friendly" as Nasu described it. At least up to this point but since it is a mystery I'd hold my judgment till it's completed. As a Type-Moon nerd fan I'm having a lot of fun with it so far as are many others who actually have a basic idea about the universe. |
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| I'm guessing it fits the usual fate spirit of "you have to consume 60 hours of mediocrity in order to appreciate it". Obviously I didn't and I don't like the show, that makes me a casual. On a sidenote there's another fate series currently airing and it's the best anime fate series I've seen so that's cool. |
| But this time, this time its is deserved. And i pray that Nasu will never do a remake of the original Fate. |
SwagernatorMar 13, 2018 3:25 PM
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| It's so bad even the memesubers don't want anything to do with it anymore. |
| You can't be disappointed in any entry of Fate when you have Kara no Kyoukai to love. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| as someone who didnt played the Fate/Extra game and tried because Nasu said it would be ok to start with it, i kinda feel cheated because it definitly doesnt feel like its fine to start here. |
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| It's currently rated lower on MAL than Tsukihime, the anime that doesn't exist. This should tell you all you need to know about MAL's ratings. The show is great so far IMO. You just need to get the good subs (Chyuu and/or APEX) and pay attention to the subtle nuances. The meme subs on streaming sites are crap you should never bother with. It's a mystery show. It doesn't aim to wow you with set pieces or epic fights. It aims to construct an intriguing narrative and interesting world building. The story and dialogue are great IMO. You just need to get it through competent subbers. |
| Yeah, the world building is slowly coming together and finally starting to make some modicum of sense. It's definitely a slow burn, but what's there is definitely intriguing and keeps me coming back for more. UBW was definitely a fun show with the fights and visuals, but that was all there was to it. The themes were handled questionably and dragged on for too long, and the show never gave me a reason to care about any of the characters despite making references to Fate/Zero to connect the two stories. Definitely agree that this show is more of a mystery. This is coming from someone who hasn't played Extra, btw. |
| I need sleep. |
PianoManGregory said: This show shouldn't even have a score yet, it's not done telling its story. Get that rational and logical thinking outta here. This is MAL, son. |
| 7/10 so far. its not too bad nor its good. its good for time killing at least kept me interested. some episodes are bad and boring some are good. its like that its quite unfriendly to ppl who dont play the game tbh one needs to play Fate Grand Order to appreciate this series and has to be a UMU fan |
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| Does it deserve to be the lowest rated Fate anime? I'd say yes. It's definitely the worst Fate related thing I have seen. |
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| Fate Grand Order was pretty bad. I like Nero as a servant but the story 8s an absolute dogs dinner. Im watching to see where it ends up so I'd say at this point its deserved. I even prefer the Deen Fate to this. |
| lets break it down to how I rate shows characters design 4/10 - almost cartoon level enviroment design 1/10 - for the most part it seems dirty, like a blur image BGM 1/10 SE 5/10 Script -2/10 - I dont feel any coherence, maybe only the ones that played the game can understand the most important factor is Nero Saber, that is only a blur shadow of Artoria. |
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| The show just feels like it is only meant for people familiar with the VN, which I am not. I feel like if the show had more episodes and "spoon-fed" more info to the regular viewers and also show more character development it would've scored much better. I like watching it just because studio shaft has nice art and it isn't like the show is unbearable, just average for anime-only viewers. |
squirrvev said: This is ridiculous. I knew that MAL is full of bullcrap, but this is worse than I imagined. I know that people have their expectations with regards to the Fate franchise. I realize that Extra isn't a standard battle royale drama with lots of characters and amazing fight scenes. But this raw hatred is terrifying. For me almost everything works well so far. The premise is promising, characters are very good( especially Nero ) .The music is really powerful in emotional moments and works perfectly with more atmospheric parts of the show . The aesthetic is actually good, especially in later episodes. I don't understand why people dislike the visuals so much. Have you ever seen an ugly anime ? I don't think so. Come on, is the international community this stupid and fixated on Zero? Or is it just an excuse to spit acid on SHAFT ? Yeah, for YOU those things work well. For others, they doesn't. Trust me, I know first hand the amount of undeserved hate certain series get on not just MAL, but other sites as well. But this is not one of those cases. IMO, it is not that good of a show, and I can see why people don't like it. They aren't shitting on it just because it's Fate, or just because Shaft made it. |
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| opposed to a lot of elitists here, I loved UBW. It was my favorite route in the VN and I know how hard it was for it get an adaptation that would please people, but seeing my favorite route animated the way it was an amazing feeling. I thought that the Fate/Extra game was ok, don't think it was bad but not anything memorable, unfortunately, and the thing is that I don't approve of monogatari type of storytelling when it comes to Fate related animes. I thought I would but that seems to not be the case, Hakuno is boring asf and UMU is the only thing that keeps me entertained. Funny thing is her characterization is better done in the opening than it is in the anime as of episode 7. |
FireFistYKMar 14, 2018 3:16 PM
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SpeedC said: FireFistYK said: opposed to a lot of elitists here, I loved UBW. It was my favorite route in the VN and I know how hard it was for it get an adaptation that would please people, but seeing my favorite route animated the way it was an amazing feeling. I thought that the Fate/Extra game was ok, don't think it was bad but not anything memorable, unfortunately, and the thing is that I don't approve of monogatari type of storytelling when it comes to Fate related animes. I thought I would but that seems to not be the case, Hakuno is boring asf and UMU is the only thing that keeps me entertained. Funny thing is her characterization is better done in the opening than it is in the anime as of episode 7. Her and Hakuno characterization are already done in the games, Nasu said both new fans and Extra veterans would be able to enjoy but I think he's lying a bit. Kittens-kun said: Yeah, for YOU those things work well. For others, they doesn't. Trust me, I know first hand the amount of undeserved hate certain series get on not just MAL, but other sites as well. But this is not one of those cases. IMO, it is not that good of a show, and I can see why people don't like it. They aren't shitting on it just because it's Fate, or just because Shaft made it. Last episode receive a good amount of praise and was trending on japanese twitter and still get plenty of hate around here, everyone know Extra is far from perfect specially for people who didn't play the games and don't have context for a lot of stuff, but it's definetely not the worst thing ever. Heard plenty of people saying this isn't what Fate is about but this show is so Nasu it hurts. Ok? Good for the Japanese Twitter crowd I guess. Don't see what that has to do with what I said. |
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Crashmatt said: Fate Grand Order was pretty bad. I like Nero as a servant but the story 8s an absolute dogs dinner.. One has to appreciate the characters as well as the new Waifus/ Husbando the story is shit i agreed, ppl are there just for the Waifus beside its a mobile game, so anyone not into that kind of gaming prob won't like it gameplay wise its the same as kancolle pretty much |
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| It definitely doesn't. But I expected this, even before it was revealed to have an anime-original plot. Fate/Extra the game was just kind mediocre at best. An adaptation of that wasn't going to really sell. This anime improves upon the game a lot, but in process, it confuses people that can't pay attention to the show, yet expect to understand it. |
Hate_and_RageMar 15, 2018 12:48 AM
| Guys, you overanilize it. The score is low, because people have shit taste. |
AnnaHomura said: Crashmatt said: Fate Grand Order was pretty bad. I like Nero as a servant but the story 8s an absolute dogs dinner. Im watching to see where it ends up so I'd say at this point its deserved. I even prefer the Deen Fate to this. (I just copy pasted cause I have the same thing to say XD) Nah. Since I've played it... Fate/Grand order actually has a pretty good story that legit gets people hyped you have no idea XD (being good gameplay and characterwise doesn't hurt either) It's just that the set up in the first couple of chapters is so slow but when it gets going... Trust me, people wouldn't let the story slide It basically functions the same way manga chapter releases do (except it's more like a volume release on each story entry) When people talk about grand order they obviously just watched the first order anime adaptation of the tutorial (which changed a bit of the story developments for..reasons?) and think they're familiar with it now and just keep talking out of their asses XD I did refer to the anime. It felt like id missed something as nothing made sense. Couldnt give a toss about games or VN i just comment on what i watch. |
| There's nothing wrong with the score, people find it terrible (who can blame them?) so they gave it the rating it deserve. Nothing complicated here. This is like Fate Extra √A , a story with the same characters but alternate storyline that is total shit compared to the original. Imo, Nasu says newcomers can watch this so it won't turn off people who never played the game from watching, well, that's how you disappoint people. |
Kaiser-chanMar 16, 2018 3:10 AM
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| Because Studios: Shaft.... it needs UFOtable, they are best. Fight scenes are "come and go".... no UFOtable-quality. I like the futuristic time and environment. |
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| kek At this point we can pretty much agree that MAL rating is a meme |
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| it seems like its only 10 episode ... lmao. |
| STOP SLEEPING ON ODD TAXI |
| I don't care about MAL rating anymore. I'm enjoying lot of low rating anime (like this one), and there is a lot of boring anime like Sora yori mo Tooi Basho and Cardcaptor Sakura that have high rating. |
| Using the MAL notes as a reference is like trying to believe that the Metacritic notes serve as something. Centurionzo_12 said: TakunDes said: One has to appreciate the characters as well as the new Waifus/ Husbando the story is shit i agreed, ppl are there just for the Waifus beside its a mobile game, so anyone not into that kind of gaming prob won't like it gameplay wise its the same as kancolle pretty much The story get way better late on, like one of the best writtens game that Nasu worked on, that's not exaggerating, but until London was pretty weak, the developers even felt ashamed by and the two mangas adaptations are changing things to be better This is a frequent problem in games where the story is updated over time. Granblue Fantasy improves later after meeting all the Primal Beast, Chain Chronicles improves after the fall of the black king. And it happens even in MMO, the story of Final Fantasy XIV has improved a LOT from patch 2.0 to the point of being considered one of the best in the series, but of course, this was thanks to Heavensward. |
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| It's only got 3 episodes left, apparently, yet in the 7 we've had nothing has made sense, there's been nothing whatsoever to connect to or get excited about, and it's just been a tedious watch really. Only having 3 more episodes is the final nail in this inept series' coffin, as far as I'm concerned: I'll still slog through those last 3 episodes, but there's no chance it'll be anything worthwhile. |
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