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Oct 7, 2017 8:18 AM
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More focus on Avicebron this episode.
He definitely had a lot of explaining to Rider and Sieg as he decided to change sides..

Rider and Sieg seems like they were ready to fight him directly.

I think this episode did its job as following up from the previous episode's events. Heh, even Ruler decided to show up to deal with Avicebron. Nice to see Mordred showing up too.
Oct 7, 2017 8:31 AM
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I missed the episode was watching Two Car but seems that Mordred appeared.





Oct 7, 2017 8:47 AM
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Pretty good episode.



they're the true OTP.
Oct 7, 2017 9:50 AM
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So did Roche died?
him also within the giant so he supposedly to be blasted away right.
Oct 7, 2017 11:24 AM
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Caster really love big thing as always.
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Oct 7, 2017 1:17 PM
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As an adaptation it was... ok I guess, I liked some part and tha fact that Caster was still talking (and that they expanded a bit his backstory, I like the absolute madman).
I'm not a fan of how the "Eden" was shown (like, a bunch of deformed flowers blooming? In the LN it was a bit more spectacular than that, I know I can't expect much of all that stuff difficult to animate, but anything would've looked better than those abomination of flowers), and the animation before the final clash was really subpar.
Like, that arrow that pierced Caster's shoulder. Damn was that awful.

Still 4/5 because of how much fun the final battle was (even for the animation quality), how little was cut and how they expanded a bit my madman
Oct 7, 2017 1:25 PM
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Good episode.Really love the battle with Edén . It seems that Ruler have some feelings for sieg ( or the girl that Is the owner of the body where Ruler Is )
Oct 7, 2017 5:35 PM
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Jesus Christ A-1 it's truly being a disappointment at the animation..

I just can't believe that this anime has the same freaking studio that animated Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso and others with even better animation and visual than this..

This is not even a ufofag thing. I usually don't even complain about animation but this and the sounds effects are freaking pissing me off.

I'm actually guessing type-moon gave all the budget to ufo and shaft for Heavens feel and Last encore because hahaha I don't even understand how this is allowed to happen.

Ahh well my rant is over.

Besides that the episode was good. I love to see how they're cooperating now to freaking destroy that Shirou chuuni plans.
Oct 7, 2017 6:37 PM
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Really Glad Arifumi Imai works in this Episode, His Cut is just so good.
Oct 7, 2017 6:46 PM

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So did Roche died?
him also within the giant so he supposedly to be blasted away right.


Yes, Roche died. I think he died the moment he became one with the golem
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Oct 7, 2017 6:50 PM

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It was a really fun episode, but the animation was disappointing and the art was really inconsistent.
I wonder if a BD release is going to fix that...

So... Sieg can only shapeshift into Saber one more time?
Oct 7, 2017 7:13 PM

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It was a really fun episode, but the animation was disappointing and the art was really inconsistent.
I wonder if a BD release is going to fix that...

So... Sieg can only shapeshift into Saber one more time?


don't think so, if Jeanne can give her command seals to other masters ( Mordred asked Jeanne if she could have two ) then she will probably give him a command seal if it's plot-needed.
I don't know if this is actually right but that's a yes/no/maybe answer for your question.
Oct 7, 2017 7:57 PM

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Best episode of this series so far, I can't take seriously the people that were saying that the animation was bad, for me the animation quality against the Eden was pretty neat, of course I haven't seen the LN, but so far the animation isn't that bad.

Glad to see some action this week, things are getting better now
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Oct 8, 2017 1:44 AM

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Another great episode, I just love to see Jeanne, AStolfo, Sieg nad Mordred in action together.

And I so wish I was Sieg in the first 2 minutes of episode...
Oct 8, 2017 3:28 AM

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Seig is slowly building his harem.
1 homunculus + Ruler + Rider + Chances of Fiore Forvedge Yggdmillennia and Mordred being added
Oct 8, 2017 4:15 AM

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Sieg has saved Tomoya from Saekano


and Astofo has saved Fiore.


and the episode still manages to incorporate a sweet moment between Sieg and Astolfo.








Oct 8, 2017 5:56 AM

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The biggest Apocrypha weakness is the writting, the setting is amazing, but the author was dumb AF... Really... This is the third time in 14chapters that a servant goes on rampage and enemies have to join forces to defeat it (with Ruler who is supposed to be the most neutral servant, but every time a servant has a dick 2 inch bigger than she allows to she will fight)... Also the "I want to save the world and that is why I made a giant monster" is one of the cheapest cliches in anime and manga...
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Oct 8, 2017 6:23 AM

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Well, there goes the only Spaniard Servant to the date. His NP was cool at least.
Oct 8, 2017 10:34 AM

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Aredros said:
(with Ruler who is supposed to be the most neutral servant, but every time a servant has a dick 2 inch bigger than she allows to she will fight)... Also the "I want to save the world and that is why I made a giant monster" is one of the cheapest cliches in anime and manga...


Well tbf Adam is not really a "monster". Yes, it fights the others, but it could've basically stood still and Eden would've still eveloped the world. Just being ugly or giant doesn't imply it to be really that bad to be considered a "monster". It's not "I want to save the world so I made a monster", it's "I want to rewrite the world and this giant human I made has the power to do so".
Nothing less nothing more.
Also, the fact that there is a walking Reality Marble trying to overwrite the world is the kind of stuff that a Ruler should be avoiding at all costs, so she's really not doing anything that she souldn't. In fact, that's the kind of enemy a Ruler is summoned to stop, as she herself stated in the episode.
Oct 8, 2017 10:53 AM
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Episode was fine but the LN made Eden out to be a much more beautiful of a place, and sadly the whole exchange of words and blows were sped up so that it would end within the episode. This has me worried for the big moment with 'Jack' sometime in the near future. I guess we just have to accept that anime, cuts corners inorder to keep things within a certain time frame.
Oct 8, 2017 10:56 AM
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Poor Roche ;-;
He's still innocent but being used by his own Servant kinda annoyed me a lot XD

The fight scene is like the previous episode, pretty enjoyable to watch and...
YEAH-- I DID SUPPORT DUO SABER (Mordred x Sieg/Siegfriend) AS AN OTP :''3
//Astolfo, your master got a new 'couple' probably lol

As for after ending song credits-- nice to seen Kairi again XD
I think there's no black or red fiction again, for now is more like "Amakusa's Fiction and Jeanne's Fiction" since episode 13.
Oct 8, 2017 11:01 AM

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LeloTheUnamused said:
Aredros said:
(with Ruler who is supposed to be the most neutral servant, but every time a servant has a dick 2 inch bigger than she allows to she will fight)... Also the "I want to save the world and that is why I made a giant monster" is one of the cheapest cliches in anime and manga...


Well tbf Adam is not really a "monster". Yes, it fights the others, but it could've basically stood still and Eden would've still eveloped the world. Just being ugly or giant doesn't imply it to be really that bad to be considered a "monster". It's not "I want to save the world so I made a monster", it's "I want to rewrite the world and this giant human I made has the power to do so".
Nothing less nothing more.
Also, the fact that there is a walking Reality Marble trying to overwrite the world is the kind of stuff that a Ruler should be avoiding at all costs, so she's really not doing anything that she souldn't. In fact, that's the kind of enemy a Ruler is summoned to stop, as she herself stated in the episode.


I know I'm not being specific about it, but even if justified by the writting is still the same as Dracula and Spartacus (a creature that its destruction must be prioritized in front of the HGW... in all Fate's this happen, but here it happened 3 times and its kinda lame now)
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Aredros said:
This is the third time in 14chapters that a servant goes on rampage and enemies have to join forces to defeat it


Spartacus didn’t represent a threat to world.
Jeanne was the only one who fought him, Jeanne didn’t give even a single blow on him and all she did was defend himself, so Spartacus grabs her and when he was almost crushing Jeanne, he sees a city, then he releases her and runs off toward the city.



Mordred just stabbed him because he appeared in front of her.

Spatacus’s NP is literally to gain energy the more damage he takes. The only issue is there’s a limit to how much energy his body can store, therefore he just explodes. Spatacus’s blast would have destroyed the city of Trifas, and that is why Jeanne used her NP to protect the city and its residents.

The truth is that there has never been a real fight against Spatacus and absolutely no enemie had to join forces to defeat it, he himself killed himself with its NP.
Oct 9, 2017 10:55 AM
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Alright i can't find the subbed version anywhere it is usually out by this time. Can anyone tell me why is it taking so long for the subbed version?
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Oct 9, 2017 8:40 PM

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Khubaib_Rehmani said:
Alright i can't find the subbed version anywhere it is usually out by this time. Can anyone tell me why is it taking so long for the subbed version?

I dunno, but we can watch in spanish (Despair-Paradise), portuguese (EA) and thai subs (Fuyu).
Oct 10, 2017 12:14 AM

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Aviceborn request to not kill his master and yet he himself kill his master , well screw him
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Oct 10, 2017 12:21 AM

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At least his master's dream of creating the ultimate golem is achieved. He is now the ultimate golem.

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Oct 10, 2017 1:13 AM

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Lazy, lazy writing with this exact same scenario of something going berserk and everyone teaming up and taking a break from the Grail War. Like, are they even trying anymore (or were they to begin with?). Speaking of poor writing, why are the characters in this episode seemingly constantly recounting stuff that has occurred recently and saying they didn't expect it, even though they obviously had no logical reason to expect it?

Seriously, can we just get back to Shirou, as the writing generally seems to be a lot better (or at least a lot more interesting) when he's around.
Oct 10, 2017 1:25 AM
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For som reason I am quite mad at Avicebros, well... I am basically left with no unconditional servants to support. OK it's Lancer and Archers now, whatever.
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Oct 10, 2017 2:51 AM
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The overall action scene was enjoyable to watch I was expecting sieg to still be injured if not exhausted from the previous battles.
Heckle was here...
Oct 10, 2017 2:59 AM

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Ruler clearly want that D.
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Oct 10, 2017 3:09 AM
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The Saber combo is too OP
Oct 10, 2017 4:14 AM
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What a horrible way to represent Eden... a few rotten flowers blooming. Seriously?

The fight was enjoyable. I loved the scenes with Jeanne. Compared to the rest of this battle, they improved on choreography by A LOT while featuring some decent camerawork. As for the rest, it was pretty inconsistent. I didn't like the scene with Chiron killing Avicebron, it looked ugly. And the same goes for the ending with Sieg and Mordred standing with their backs to Adam after their final attack. Machine gun bow and arrows lol what?

Apo in one picture (except for the fact that leaving everything to Astolfo makes it even worse)


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I remember back in the first episode Avicebron mentioned that his Noble Phantasm required a living sacrifice, and unsurprisingly, as I'm sure most of us expected, that sacrifice was his master. The action was pretty good in this episode, and I liked the Saber combo that defeated the golem.
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Oct 10, 2017 4:52 AM

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The animations were just...
just... I can't even find words for it. The moment when the two lazor swordsmen fall to the ground was so bad...
Their stances look all fucked up... This is just shit :/ And not in the funny way.
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Well, I liked the episode. The quality is stepping up. Even though the animation is still meh.
Avicebron's betrayal surprised me. Didn't expect that to happen.

Something that I found funny was how Mordred was willing to help without complaining haha. I expected her to complain about being brought there by someone else but Kairi. Also, how could she communicate via telepathy with the other servants??

Oh of course, every Fate/ spin off needs a giant monster that everyone needs to join forces to defeat in order to progress.
Fate/Zero had Cthulhu.
Fate/Apocrypha had Dracula and Keter Malkuth.
Fate/strange Fake has... well, it was two but I don't wanna spoil it for anyone heh
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I was expecting Archer Chiron to launch his Noble Phantasm at the Golem but it ended up with Saber Siegfried's Balmung and Mordred's Blood Arthur finishing the Golem off in one hit. I suppose Archer Chiron isn't that strong.

I wonder where Achilles and Atalante went.

Rider Astolfo seems pretty weak.

If Siegfried isn't strong, then it means that Mordred isn't gonna win against Ruler Shirou Kotomine and his team of elites. Karna is super OP. Even Semiramis is OP. William Shakespeare is weak. Avicebron is gone. Unless Atalante and Achilles join Shirou Kotomine, his team is lacking.
Oct 10, 2017 5:26 AM

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Avicebron finished off his golem by using Roche as the sacrifice. Most of us saw that coming.

Need more Jeanne <3

Oct 10, 2017 5:29 AM

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Good stuff this week.


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The hippogriff scene was the best part of this ep.

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Oct 10, 2017 5:54 AM
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Oh of course, every Fate/spin off needs a giant monster that everyone needs to join forces to defeat in order to progress.
Fate/Zero had Cthulhu.
Fate/Apocrypha had Dracula and Keter Malkuth.
Fate/Strange Fake has... well, it was two but I don't wanna spoil it for anyone heh



But...


Oct 10, 2017 6:49 AM

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Good teamwork to bring down the golem.
Oct 10, 2017 7:18 AM

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Roche ;-;
Liked this kid :/
Oct 10, 2017 7:20 AM

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Decent episode.

Caster with the huge golem summon. Kinda felt bad for the kid master who was made the core. His death was kinda anti climatic though.

Action scenes were great as always, Jeanne's scene in particular were stunning with a lot of really cool choreography and camera angles. We really need more Jeanne. <3
That being said, it does feel kinda off how she's taking care of Sieg so much.

Mordred and Siegfried with their backs turned to the explosion with their red and black armor reminded me of Power Rangers. XD

I thought Chiron was gonna use his NP, but to me it looked like he never used it or maybe I just totally missed it.
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The frames when Mordred showed up after being summoned by Jeanne really bothered me. What the hell's going on with Clarent?



Rest of the episode was pretty good though. Loved the double Saber finisher
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"I ask you, are you my master?"

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Am i the only one, cuz i fcking hate Sieg, jesus christ, talk abt a cliche main character and get all the puss like it was meant to be xD
Oct 10, 2017 10:04 AM
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Decent episode.

Caster with the huge golem summon. Kinda felt bad for the kid master who was made the core. His death was kinda anti climatic though.

Action scenes were great as always, Jeanne's scene in particular were stunning with a lot of really cool choreography and camera angles. We really need more Jeanne. <3
That being said, it does feel kinda off how she's taking care of Sieg so much.

Mordred and Siegfried with their backs turned to the explosion with their red and black armor reminded me of Power Rangers. XD

I thought Chiron was gonna use his NP, but to me it looked like he never used it or maybe I just totally missed it.
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Oct 10, 2017 10:07 AM

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This is bad with things like that (and as they will continue) people will be loving Mordred more and more, and that is a bad thing.
Oct 10, 2017 11:21 AM

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Nice episode,action was cool and I dunno what people have against the animation,seemed alright imo.

Too bad we couldn't see Archers Noble Phantasm,tho.

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