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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Geez, it's like a monster world out there. This episode made it look their world look dangerous or at least from what it seems to be on the outside. Otherwise, I guess the action is not bad? These mech pilots putting their skills into the battle shows their talent. The new mech upgrades though...not too shabby. Still a pretty cheesy episode. So far, this show has yet to wow me. |
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| So he finally managed to learn things about the core of the knights and it seems he managed to build a strong robot. Now the question is how will they perform on the battlefield. Seeing their current success it's clear that they are doing very well even in battle which was nice to see. |
| I really enjoy watching this kid and his friends/team succeed and learn....If only most of the world had the patience and drive that Erni has Also, I'm glad that Addy finally learned that the spy lady isn't interested in Erni in THAT kind of way so now she can stop acting all defensive lol (I ship them together anyway) His new mech the Ikaruga is a cool name and I can't wait to see it in action, also the Alv Queen is hot |
| Ernesti finally made his own Knights, Ikaruga. I want to see it in action. |
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| This anime is definitely ending with 12/13 episodes isn't it... |
| So that's what the Title is about. It sure is fascinating when it comes to Adventure plus learn some secret, especially if this secret is about something you really like. |
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| Meanwhile everyone even the king fight Eru just sit there enjoying everything clearly I am the King fit for Eru this episode |
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| Did he just learned hundred wears worth of knowledge in just three months? Finally, Ikaruga is born. |
| Plenty of action and we finally get to see Ernesti achieve his goal of learning everything about the Ether Reactors...but for some reason the episode still felt pretty meh...I was stoked the see his new mech at the end but...yeah just an ok episode overall |
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| Ernie's new mech looks cool, it should be fun watching him kick ass with it. |
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| Finally, Ikuruga is born! The strongest imperfect machine with dual ether reactor tailored-made just for Eru!! The battle with the Queen is simplified but I kinda okay with it since it gave more time explaining the mechanics behind Silhouette Knight, especially the ether reactor. As the later half of the episode implied, Can't wait to see Ikaruga in action!!! |
| I don't know why I like this show because I know I don't feel like Eru will fail at any point in the show...Yet that's okay. |
| There's no inherent right or wrong in this universe, but when we think with emotions rather than logic, we make things so. |
| Simple humans vs monster anime like this are really refreshing from time to time. So ernie just made 2 behemoth reactors, he should gain more mana then an entire army from this. When will we see shield reactors and Energy Sabers? |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| Honestly, Ernesti feels less like an actual character and more like a god in this universe. It's annoying how he's good at everything and learns everything so fast. Also, the pace of this show is ridiculous. Fight, info-dump, skip ahead... I don't know. Can someone who has read the source material, without spoiling, let me know if this show is ever going to have a proper plot? Or is Ernesti building robots the entire premise? |
JCvetich said: Or is Ernesti building robots the entire premise? You ask like it's a bad thing. |
| Hmm so the main focus for this new arc is the monster horde that is bearing down on the kingdom eh. So the target of the enemy attack is also the location where the country makes the reactors that power is mecha's eh. Well since its related to the creation of the mecha's Ernie will be motivated to defend it but man this time he really is on fire. Man that horde certainly is large though. Even the elite knights that Ernie and co fought last episode are having a hard time holding the lines eh. Its nice that they managed to hold out long enough for Ernie and his order to arrive though. Ernie's new suits really are pretty powerful though. At least the prince can finally test his new suit though. Hmm so the former king is also here to help his grandson eh. Its nice that now the Ernie's order has been expanded to include more pilots though. So each of the veteran pilots is leading their own companies eh. Wow the queen certainly is large. Its funny how Ernie is actually mocking the queen when he showed up in front of it. The order of the silver phoenix really is impressive despite the smaller number of knights that they have. Its nice that the knights here had little ego to get in their way though. And Ernie finally gets to get the thing he really wanted which was the construction method for the engine. Hmm to think that the engine itself was not invented by humans but by another race. Ernie is someone that doesn't give up easily especially with regards to his hobby of designing mecha lol. Hmm a hidden society thats though hidden from the world still helps in protecting it. Hmm so in their later years the members of this race lose interest and only sleep eh. Yet at least they keep aware of what's happening around them. It seems that this race's main desire is the gathering of knowledge. Hmm the engine is more complex than i thought. I see so because the Arv have their special magic only they can refine the material that the engine needs. Its nice that Ernie is so excited with his hobby though. Hmm it seems that the members of his order are not willing to leave him there at all. What loyal comrades indeed. In 3 months Ernie was able to learn everything eh impressive. Hmm it looks like something big will happen in the next few episodes then. Hmm its nice that Nora went ahead and dispelled the misunderstanding that Addy had by revealing her identity. And finally Ernie was able to create his own unique mecha then. Since the more powerful the beast the more potent their catalyst crystals will be the queens and the behemoth's should make Ernie's new suit pretty powerful. Quite an interesting episode. |
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| The action in the beginning was nice. Ernesti defeated the queen quite well. In just three months, he learned enough knowledge about the Ether Reactors to build his own mech which he called it Ikaruga. It looks very cool. |
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JCvetich said: Honestly, Ernesti feels less like an actual character and more like a god in this universe. It's annoying how he's good at everything and learns everything so fast. Also, the pace of this show is ridiculous. Fight, info-dump, skip ahead... I don't know. Can someone who has read the source material, without spoiling, let me know if this show is ever going to have a proper plot? Or is Ernesti building robots the entire premise? The show is pretty much shit. We are on episode 8 and already covered 3 books. The upcoming arc spans across 2 books and will, most likely, be covered in 4 episodes. That is just NOT enough time to flesh out the story. In the books, Eru went from being 9 years old, to being 15 years old. 15 years old is the age when he learned the secret of ether reactor. But make no mistake, he's been studying magic since he was, if I recall correctly, 4 and swordsmanship since around 8. Knowing how he is a die hard mecha fan, you can imagine how hard he's been going at his studies. But back to your question, this show will never have a proper plot because of how rushed it is, it does not have time for a proper plot. You want proper plot, read the books, google for sky the wood if you want to. |
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ZingFreelancer said: JCvetich said: Honestly, Ernesti feels less like an actual character and more like a god in this universe. It's annoying how he's good at everything and learns everything so fast. Also, the pace of this show is ridiculous. Fight, info-dump, skip ahead... I don't know. Can someone who has read the source material, without spoiling, let me know if this show is ever going to have a proper plot? Or is Ernesti building robots the entire premise? The show is pretty much shit. We are on episode 8 and already covered 3 books. The upcoming arc spans across 2 books and will, most likely, be covered in 4 episodes. That is just NOT enough time to flesh out the story. In the books, Eru went from being 9 years old, to being 15 years old. 15 years old is the age when he learned the secret of ether reactor. But make no mistake, he's been studying magic since he was, if I recall correctly, 4 and swordsmanship since around 8. Knowing how he is a die hard mecha fan, you can imagine how hard he's been going at his studies. But back to your question, this show will never have a proper plot because of how rushed it is, it does not have time for a proper plot. You want proper plot, read the books, google for sky the wood if you want to. Thanks for the response. I kind of got that feeling that the show was rushing the story along. It's one of the things that really bothers me, as I said in my original post. I would probably enjoy the books a lot more, and I'll probably end up reading them. I'll just try and take the show for what it is. Thanks again for the advice. |
syncrogazer said: JCvetich said: Or is Ernesti building robots the entire premise? You ask like it's a bad thing. I mean, in itself it's not a bad thing. I wouldn't mind it as an additional plot alongside a more intriguing one. |
| Dam this is so aweessoommmee. Hyped for next weeks episode. |
| So much for the queen, Ernesti made real short work of her. Great Elder Kitley, at least we now know who she is, I felt ominous vibes when she was shown at the end of the last episode but she's actually on the our side. Ikaruga looks really cool, can't wait to see it in action. |
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| Lol new robot looks OP with two super reactors. |
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| So he slays the queen and rips all those eggs out of her like it was nothing. Then goes to Alfheim to interact with the Great Elder for three months and even manages to steal their manufacturing magic and technique like it was nothing. His customized mech is OP as heck what with having both a Queen and a Behemoth heart as it's core. Nothing in this world probably even comes close. And was it just me, or would he have a difficult time explaining the chicken scratches on his mech's chest, considering this world doesn't use Japanese letters XD |
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| Ernie finally done his goal to make his own Silhouette Knight... Ikaruga is a nice name too for a cool and neat knight like that... Alfheim kinds of reminds me of Sword Art Online lol... But yeah I know the name might be come from "Alfheimr" from Norse mythology, a world of elves... |
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| Does anyone notice the VA for the Alv elder is the same VA who voiced Lalah Sune of the original Gundam? |
L-Ryoshi said: So he slays the queen and rips all those eggs out of her like it was nothing. Lets get a few things right that anime got wrong. First of all, the chariot Eru is shown riding is never pulled by two Tzendrinble. It was actually actually pulled by Tzendorg, the twin pilot prototype of Centaur Knight they've used for duel in episode 7. The remaining chariots are being pulled by production version, Tzendrinble, which is a SINGLE seated version of Tzendorg. It is actually pretty important because Tzendorg is used several times in the story and it can only be piloted by the twins. One of the reasons to use Tzendorg instead of dual Tzendrinble (as far as I recall, they never used dual Tzendrinble to pull a carriage) is because it allowed for better use of flexible coat. A type of optional works Eru developed. It uses Silhouette arms equipped with shields to add extra protection to the machine. Edgar is a big fan of this mode and his machine always come equipped with flexible coat. While one person is busy piloting Centaur Knight, another person could use flexible coat to protect the machine and attack with weapons. Queen shell beast had six legs instead of four, but it does not really matter. It was defeated by Eru burning all upper joints on one side. This caused the beast to fall over and since it was very tall, it suffered critical damage on impact. Eru finished it by driving one of chariots side swords into its forehead, no lightning. Eru actually lost balance several times during the fight due to how unpredictable and unstable Toybox is. In regards to the shell beast queen. It was not mentioned in anime, but when a hive split happens. The newly born queen lacks egg sack. But the queen we've seen had an egg sack, which means it was not a split, but a relocation. Shell beast queen was relocating because her hive grew too large. After the queen was defeated, they spent a week cleaning up remains of shell beast. Before Silver Phenix arrived and saved the day, the guards had a pretty hard fight vs a huge swarm of soldier beasts and ranged shell beasts. Guards had little protection from ranged attacks. Instead they made protection by stacking shells of fallen shell beasts and hiding behind them. But they were overwhelmed when giant shell beast (taller than SK) joined the fray. Edgar and Dietrich had their roles to play in the fight, alongside the prince and former king. Eru spent only one month learning. |
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| The action was nice and I want to see the new mecha kick ass. |
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| Helvi fanservice, check; Alf fanservice, check. Decent actiony episode, but this. Huex3 said: I wish LN adaptations would stop with the fast pace (Akashic anyone?). Sure it's a great way to promote a series, it's also a great way to make a forgettable anime. This really felt like watching a montage. I have never seen another anime with a pace as fast as this. They managed to finish an entire arc with just 1 episode wow. |
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| @EratiK & @Huex3: Seen worse adaptations, so I can handle this pace. Take Antimagic Academy for example. After a second watch of this episode, I got a better understanding of his so called "workaround." In other words, I was able to image what was omitted from the story for the sake of adapting. The narration can only cover so much without being boring. I'll likely read if I want more detail. The focus on action isn't entirely overbearing. |
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| Woah, I'm surprised they fit all this into 1 episode. But well... finally we get to see the new and improved models fighting those shellcased. |
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| @ZingFreelancer: Adaptations and their liberties. I hope they had a good reason to separate the siblings. I can imagine the Toybox weighs more than the transports or it's meant for more speed in combat. A chariot would be rather slow with one horse pulling. Same goes for a six long legged creature. Just compare a daddy-longleg with your average spider. It’s obvious cutting down the number of long legs and adding to the number of four legged mechas would make more sense when speed is involved. As for the MC taking more time to learn, I'd say they're trying to make the story more realistic with all the changes. I’m more surprised our MC hasn’t thought to make a modern-day car with reactors as engines by now. Of course, he’d have to be knowledgeable on cars to do so and it'd be ripping off Eureka Seven. Sadly, we all know he was more obsessed with mecha figures than everyday vehicles in his past life. He didn’t even own a car if I remember correctly. Japan doesn’t seem like a place with a huge reliance on cars to begin with. I question how many gas stations they even have. I imagine most of their gas is foreign. I could be wrong. Anime alone is probably not the best source of information. So... what happened to his old mecha? Did it even have a name? Probably information the LN makes more clear. Guess I'll have to read if the adaptation doesn't touch on it. |
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| That was fast and already introduced! So Ernesti's final prototype of his Silhouette Knight which is supposed to be the strongest is named Ikaruga! I guessing the intake and outtake pipes means that Ikaruga's power should be recyclable and basically means almost unlimited energy! At this point, Ernesti's existence is not just a National threat...it could be an International threat and Continental threat to anyone! 5/5. |
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| The pace this manga takes really does a disservice to the main story since they rush so much it just feels wrong. Either way, i can see a remake in the future that paces the story in a more measured way. |
| I've enjoyed the show to a degree, but I'm starting to get listless. Let's be real: the only reason to watch this is for the cool magic mechs. Every human character is vapid. The two twins, especially the girl, are simultaneously worthless and incredibly annoying. The rookie knights are okay, but really, no one is fleshed out that well besides Ernesti. I feel like the narrator is a stronger character than any of the others, for christ's sake. There is no compelling plot trajectory either, other than "Let's keep making things, and then more things!" None of the characters have faced any significant or debilitating hardship. The worst thing that's happened is that evil chick stealing the prototype mech. There are hints that something dark is on the horizon, but I'm starting to get a "When are we gonna get to the fireworks factory?!" vibe. I don't often preach for something to go the grimdark route - that's overused at this point - but damn, some stakes would be nice. A sadist like Hajime Isayama or George R.R. Martin could take the fantasy and war themes here and really have a fucking field day with them. (I'm sure the light novels have better pacing and more sketched out characters, but I hate light novels, so this is all I have to work with and judge.) |
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dafckingman said: like the lab engineers, they thought they had gotten their hands on the newest thing in existence. Afterall, it takes hundreds of years to develop a new model. The anime implies that they reduced amount of crystal stand tissue, but increased output by 30%, that is incorrect compared to light novels. The lab model of the prototype has 30% less performance than the prototype. The power output reduction was done in order to resolve 2 issues. High mana consumption rate and difficulty in controlling the machine. The only reason why lab was able to complete their prototype so quickly is due to Ernesti supplying them with blue prints and explanations to what and why. It was stated in light novels that had the lab not received instruction in regards to Magius Engine modification done by Eru, they would've spent a long time understanding them on their own. dafckingman said: They probably made some improvements to the model but, kek, it'll be like watching a wooden cart with improved wheels fighting a Tank What happens if the other nation manage to think of a way to resolve mana consumption problem that our dear genius Ernesti did not consider? They will have powerful machines comparable to Karrdetolle, if not more powerful due to Karrdetolle 30% performance reduction. What if somebody else come up with an invention that completely changes the rules of the battlefield? Find out this Sunday :) |
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| "if you live long enough, we shall meet again" and alchemy? Hmmm all points to the ether reactor being dangerous, it probably saps lifespan or convert it Man, Ernie is so annoying and cringy, he's like a little girl getting excited over a cookie, I want to punch him, he's a sissy |
This is spoiler territory and I dont want to go there yet, but fear tend to breed innovation. Like during the Cold War, we had a metric ton of innovation because everybody was scared of communism. dafckingman said: What I see happening in ep.9 is Nation X (x is for bad guys, of course) is going to invade Fremmelwhatever with massive hordes of mass produced Mechs that may have slight improvements from the stolen prototype They'll be vs-ing Ernesti's crew of badasses' new mechs (which now includes the ex-king and the prince) while the nation's "Finest Pilots" would act as cannon fodders The series likes to turn the in-world expectation on its head. Showing what is supposed to be an impossible task being easily accomplish by Ernesti, with a smile. Fremmevira Kingdom is a kingdom separated by a mountain range from all other human nations. It is a kingdom located next to the demon beast territory and majority of human nations views them as bumpkin nation that has to constantly fight vs demon beasts. There is little to no strategic value in invading such nation, so I doubt that will happen any time soon. Besides, the mass produced mechs you speak of are the Kardetolle that has been rolling out to many knight orders in the nation. Naturally, Silver Phoenix knights are the ones with largest amount of Karrdetolle's. Evan Edgars and Dietrich machines are heavily costumised Karrdetolle's. The only other noticeable machine they have is Tzendrinble. So far, there is a very small number of knight orders that actually have Tzendrinble's, since they have two ether reactors, essentially doubling the cost of the machine. dafckingman said: The senpais are gonna fight the Ojou-chan that stole the prototype and Ernie fighting.... whoever the enemy commander is. I actually like her, both as a villain and a fighter. She is the captain of Copper Fang Knights, a fallen order from unknown kingdom. She took the job because she was promised that her order will be restored and become legit recognised organisation and not a outlawed group of bandits. If I remember correctly, she herself is a member of fallen nobility. The copper knight order role is similar to Blue Hawk order. dafckingman said: Of course I'm just talking out of my ass here. Since you've read the LN and I haven't I'm 100% sure it's gonna go down like you said. Gah! I want more of this series but I feel like they could wrap it up in 13 eps without the need for a second season. By the end of this Arc ernie should've conquered the continent, and pretty much, the world. So there isn't much else to do besides from fighting The king of monster or going out into space. I think we are in for the weakest arc of this anime, by any means its a fantastic arc in the novels. But it relies heavily on establishing a new location and bunch of new characters, something this show has no time for. At least we can look forward to the demon god making its grand entrance and all the fighting. Btw, you can read the novels too, there is a fan translation on sky.the.wood. |
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| [quote=dafckingman message=52057239] dafckingman said: Makes sense. So it was more of a steal new technology to fight other in-land nations and less of stealing their tech to invade them. Wait and see, everything will start making sense in episode 9. ZingFreelancer said: Besides, the mass produced mechs you speak of are the Kardetolle that has been rolling out to many knight orders in the nation. dafckingman said: I was referring to the 4 arms type that she stole. Isn't that a new and revolutionary type that the world haven't seen before? While just adding 2 arms to an existing model can hardly be called a new type, this series' idea of a new mech according to the evolution chart they kept showing us seems very minimal. It took them 300 years to change from holding a sword to a hammer : Yes, Tellestarle is the prototype to Kardator Dash you've seen in episode 7 and Dash is prototype to the mass production model called Kardetolle. There are multiple fields that required for innovation, alchemists working on new type of crystal tissue, improved magius engine and scripts, better performance from ether reactors. Take for example ether reactors, that is something invented by an elf over a period of several centuries. How long would it take to achieve if humans tried to invent it? One scientist work on it for 30-40 years, dies and the project is carried over by the next one for? Besides, the mentality of medieval humans has been known to be very rigid. As for 300 years going from sword to hammer, that is incorrect. What it meant is that in span of 300 years, there has been only 2 innovations in SK production and the last one happened 100 years ago. So nobody expected a new model to be invented for at least 100 years. Besides, what Eru did was change how crystal tissue is arranged, since he needed more durability, higher power output is pure side effect. Then he made it easier to switch between close range and long range by adding cannons to the back of the machine. That took shape in form of extra pair of hands, with a bit of ingenuity he modified magius engine (read on-board computer) to automate the process of aiming and firing. He did not invent any new technologies per say, he simply found a new ways to use existing technology. If you think about it, its pretty logical, people who are not used to think of shoulder mounted cannons will not think about adding extra arms to the back of the machine to hold ranged weapons. dafckingman said: So 1. Boss 2. Boss with Army 3. Big Boss with Army seems legit. If he unlocks the secret of the world that resides in the Big Boss' Castle, I will not be surprised Well.... dafckingman said: I prefer Anime>Manga>Novel with the number of novels I've read being lower than how many fingers I have. Though this series is one of the few that makes me reeeeally want to read the LN but... I'll just wait for season 2 XD .... is there gonna be a season 2? I guess that'll be going into spoilers territory too. Well then we'll find out in a month. I doubt there will be a second season. Anime is about to begin covering the arc that spans over volume 4 and 5. To my knowledge, there is about 7 book in total (more being written), I've only read up to novel 4 and two chapters of volume 5. In general, light novel / manga adaptations are made in order to promote original material. |
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