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Aug 5, 2017 8:20 AM
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Cool, they did a bit of background storytelling of Mordred. There's even glimpse of her battle against Saber as well. Dope.

Celenike got pretty crazy this episode. What a psycho.
I still really like Mordred and Kairi when they are together. The duo are just so fun to watch.

Mordred's fighting with Jack the Ripper is kinda thrilling.
Aug 5, 2017 8:29 AM
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Nice episode, the Ripper vs. Mordred. The final was good. So far I am still liking this animation. After 6 episodes the quality stills good





Aug 5, 2017 8:37 AM
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Great episode. Flashback in the beginning was good, was especially nice to see Morgan there.
Aug 5, 2017 8:49 AM
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Morgan's design is utter ass. As expected of nu-nasuverse. Also she's totally 100% a saberface.

Otherwise okay episode covering one of many filler segments this story has.
Aug 5, 2017 9:32 AM
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Fai said:
Morgan's design is utter ass. As expected of nu-nasuverse. Also she's totally 100% a saberface.

Otherwise okay episode covering one of many filler segments this story has.


Agreed, wasn't Artoria enough? Then he had to make unoriginal/bland lookalikes in Nero and Morgan.

Sad!
Aug 5, 2017 9:46 AM
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Artoria's sister looking like Artoria!!!?? INCONCEIVABLE!!!!!!
Aug 5, 2017 9:53 AM
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astroprogs said:
Artoria's sister looking like Artoria!!!?? INCONCEIVABLE!!!!!!


Thats not how genetics works tho. Your siblings are not your clones. And this franchise already has way too many clones. Not to mention t he design is utterly pandery shit yet again instead of the mystique and style you'd expect from a medieval magus. Then again lolmerlindesign so what did I expect.

Nero looking like Artoria had plot significance and worked nice as expectation reversal and it ties into a lot of original Extra themes of subverting one's expectations and not everything being what it looks like.
Moedred looking like Artoria makes sense due to circumstances and due to Mordred being Arthur's foil and mirror image thematically.

Everything else is way overboard and pure fanservice.
its like if


Morgana is one of the most mythological famous sorceresses. She deserves an unique design and overall all of the arthurian mythos deserves a more mature and complex design than it got - I mean all the Arthurian Knights in Nasuverse look anime as fuck. Some designs are decent but its pretty much a fantasy world bishie boyband.

Even Morgana looking like Semiramis would have made more sense due to Moedred's comments. But nope - instead its most likely saberface with stripper-clothes again.

With the whole family of saberfaces tho Nasuverse has long since become its own parody now.
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astroprogs said:
Artoria's sister looking like Artoria!!!?? INCONCEIVABLE!!!!!!


I'm surprised she didn't turn out to be voiced by Ayako Kawasumi too...



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Fai said:
astroprogs said:
Artoria's sister looking like Artoria!!!?? INCONCEIVABLE!!!!!!


Thats not how genetics works tho. Your siblings are not your clones. And this franchise already has way too many clones. Not to mention t he design is utterly pandery shit yet again instead of the mystique and style you'd expect from a medieval magus. Then again lolmerlindesign so what did I expect.

Much more logical and less pandery than this design, though

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@Fai Siblings not looking like clones doesn't mean they should look completely different. Siblings looking very similar is the norm, not the opposite.
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moedred strikes again xD

what is wrong having more saberface?

the more the merrier
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Aug 5, 2017 10:57 AM

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@Fai Siblings not looking like clones doesn't mean they should look completely different. Siblings looking very similar is the norm, not the opposite.


Does not mean Morgana, a most famous mythological sorceress should look like Saber with long hair and stripper outfit tho.

If to be honest most of Camelot designs are anime as fuck and lack maturity and seriousness it needed tbh. Its extremely disappointing overall - nobody looks like a historical hero and instead everyone looks like an anime character.

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B-But it's from before the FGO era so it's fine!


Already explained the significance and narrative meaning of Nero's design above. I am sure you will continue to ignore it because it does not fit your group's coordinated narrative. :)
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Fai said:


Already explained the significance and narrative meaning of Nero's design above. I am sure you will continue to ignore it because it does not fit your group's coordinated narrative. :)


Whut? You mean it wasn't a obvious bait to try and cash in on a saber look alike? So she can get a automatic attention boost?

Just because she has a way different personality (well they kinda had to make her quite eccentric to differentiate her from a certain king of knights and anything in between) doesn't mean it's alright for her to be a almost exact saber clone.
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That DEEN tribute with Mordred! Awesome!
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So, did anyone already identify who's voicing Morgan?



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Great episode. Plenty of backstory for Mordred, plus the first big fight between mordred and Jack or rather "Jack" for those who get what I mean. Chiron being Chiron again. Aside from a few "quality animations" scenes, the episode looked great

Fai said:
Morgan's design is utter ass. As expected of nu-nasuverse. Also she's totally 100% a saberface.

Otherwise okay episode covering one of many filler segments this story has.



The Morrigan always looks very, sleezy in pictures of her. If anything, shes often times naked with hair covering part of her nips or she is wearing very slim and loose fitting outfits that have a dark color to them. So in a way, Fate's design for her is just a typical Morrigan design. As for the Saberface thing, I personally hate how often they re-use her face even if technically you could connect some people to others like Arther and Mordred, but its just a thing that has been famous for many Type Moon material. God knows FGO milks the crap out of it with a LOT of saber-face servants. Even getting some Rin faces too
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So, did anyone already identify who's voicing Morgan?


Same person who voices Ko-gil and Quetzalcoatl.

Seriously we are arguing whether Morgan looks like Arturia or not? This is the one of the few times where saberface is totally excusable, plus they don't even look that similar, as similar as jeanne and arturia (which is not a lot).

Fai's thought process have serious issues, if he is excusing Nero but not morgan.

Okay episode, I do like mo-san's flashback, can't expect top tier animation from A1, but it gets the job done.
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Fai said:
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@Fai Siblings not looking like clones doesn't mean they should look completely different. Siblings looking very similar is the norm, not the opposite.


Does not mean Morgana, a most famous mythological sorceress should look like Saber with long hair and stripper outfit tho.

If to be honest most of Camelot designs are anime as fuck and lack maturity and seriousness it needed tbh. Its extremely disappointing overall - nobody looks like a historical hero and instead everyone looks like an anime character.

Lolimancer said:

B-But it's from before the FGO era so it's fine!


Already explained the significance and narrative meaning of Nero's design above. I am sure you will continue to ignore it because it does not fit your group's coordinated narrative. :)


Hahaha, oh god, "lack maturity", you speak like TM isn't you know an ACG product, but a serious literature work of unfathomable depth (like three kingdom or water water margin). Seriously have you forgotten medusa's resign, Ciel's battle suit, etc. TM have always been an ACG product, whether willful ignorance or pure stupidity, I laugh so hard when people use "maturity" to criticize a TM work, its like the kettle calling the pot black.

Double laugh when they bring up FSN, FZ and KnK into the mix, as they are "Shounen Reconstruction", "Shock value pretensions" and "Fancy love story" correspondingly.
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Aug 5, 2017 2:07 PM

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ap1001 said:

Double laugh when they bring up FSN, FZ and KnK into the mix, as they are "Shounen Reconstruction"


Okay, I don't care about the argument, but if you're gonna make puns, at least do it right. FSN is a seinen and came before the generic shonen tropes we have today, so can't be a 'reconstruction'.

What you meant to say was 'Japanese porn game'.
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Great episode. Plenty of backstory for Mordred, plus the first big fight between mordred and Jack or rather "Jack" for those who get what I mean. Chiron being Chiron again. Aside from a few "quality animations" scenes, the episode looked great

Fai said:
Morgan's design is utter ass. As expected of nu-nasuverse. Also she's totally 100% a saberface.

Otherwise okay episode covering one of many filler segments this story has.

The Morrigan always looks very, sleezy in pictures of her. If anything, shes often times naked with hair covering part of her nips or she is wearing very slim and loose fitting outfits that have a dark color to them. So in a way, Fate's design for her is just a typical Morrigan design. As for the Saberface thing, I personally hate how often they re-use her face even if technically you could connect some people to others like Arther and Mordred, but its just a thing that has been famous for many Type Moon material. God knows FGO milks the crap out of it with a LOT of saber-face servants. Even getting some Rin faces too

She looked kinda like Morrigan in Dragon age:
Aug 5, 2017 2:26 PM

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ap1001 said:

Double laugh when they bring up FSN, FZ and KnK into the mix, as they are "Shounen Reconstruction"


Okay, I don't care about the argument, but if you're gonna make puns, at least do it right. FSN is a seinen and came before the generic shonen tropes we have today, so can't be a 'reconstruction'.

What you meant to say was 'Japanese porn game'.


No, is a reconstruction of Shounen tropes, on carrying out dreams and fighting for ideals, all that stuff. It has a few edgy and dark moments but that does not make it Seinen.

It is also a Japanese galgame, but that by itself means roughly nothing, as it is just a genre.
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Fai said:


Thats not how genetics works tho. Your siblings are not your clones. And this franchise already has way too many clones. Not to mention t he design is utterly pandery shit yet again instead of the mystique and style you'd expect from a medieval magus. Then again lolmerlindesign so what did I expect.

Much more logical and less pandery than this design, though

I always thought Umu should have looked like a Gil genderbend/Gil-face, since her personality mirrors his in multiple ways.
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No, is a reconstruction of Shounen tropes, on carrying out dreams and fighting for ideals, all that stuff. It has a few edgy and dark moments but that does not make it Seinen.

It is also a Japanese galgame, but that by itself means roughly nothing, as it is just a genre.


>Not eroge

Boy oh boy, I'm not even gonna attempt with you.

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As for the ep, Mordred was cute, Jack was cute, Morgan was disappointing and, Saber-face aside, she doesn't come off as the amazing Merlin-rivalling Semi-chan-like witch, Chiron was awesome. The end.

Now to wait for the inevitable FZ secondaries who will continue to misunderstand Arthur more due to the lack of a viable Fate route adaptation.
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Why Mordred calling herself Arthur's son? did she don't know her own gender?


Either way its laughable when they call each other as "father" and "son"
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Why Mordred calling herself Arthur's son? did she don't know her own gender?


Either way its laughable when they call each other as "father" and "son"
Mordred is a bundle of contradictions, but she's already shown she hates being called a woman in this series repeatedly. Due to values back then she probably attributed femininity to weakness and didn't want any of that attributed to her or the king she initially idolized.

To quote her profile in Fate/Grand Order, "Dealing with Mordred is simple. Do not badmouth King Arthur. Do not praise King Arthur. Do not treat her like a woman. Also do not bluntly treat her like a man. Do not behave in stiff manner. Do not become infatuated with other Servants. Properly hear her opinions."
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Fai said:
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@Fai Siblings not looking like clones doesn't mean they should look completely different. Siblings looking very similar is the norm, not the opposite.


Does not mean Morgana, a most famous mythological sorceress should look like Saber with long hair and stripper outfit tho.

Outfit aside, yes, Morgan looking like Artoria with long hair makes sense.

You can complain that her design should've been more creative or that it doesn't look like she did in your mind, but you can't say it doesn't makes sense in-universe.

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astroprogs said:
Artoria's sister looking like Artoria!!!?? INCONCEIVABLE!!!!!!


Your word choice at the end brought back some great memories of SWBF2.
(I hope that was intentional, but if not, what a happy coincidence :D)

A happy coincidence, I'm afraid :D I haven't even played SWBF2.
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Note that rhongomyniad looks like Artoria Lancer's, and not the UBW version
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Hahaha, oh god, "lack maturity", you speak like TM isn't you know an ACG product, but a serious literature work of unfathomable depth (like three kingdom or water water margin). Seriously have you forgotten medusa's resign, Ciel's battle suit, etc. TM have always been an ACG product, whether willful ignorance or pure stupidity, I laugh so hard when people use "maturity" to criticize a TM work, its like the kettle calling the pot black.

Double laugh when they bring up FSN, FZ and KnK into the mix, as they are "Shounen Reconstruction", "Shock value pretensions" and "Fancy love story" correspondingly.


Erm, yes? FSN, Tsukihime, KNK, Fate Zero and most of old nasuverse were complex and grown up narratives filled with philosophical themes and actually mature topics. They were deep philosophical works with complex interesting and unusual protagonists, fucked up dark and mature themes, interesting, coherent and grounded lore and complex plot exploring themes of identity, human insignificance and ideal conflicts. Only some time ago it turned into more simple chuuni fantasy works lacking maturity or adult themes. Its always funny how new fans try to shit on old works in order to rewrite history and justify the current tone of the franchise.

Sure it had fanservice elements but they were not the point and something else having some fanservice does not justify something else having nothing but that so no whattaboutism is not a good fallacy to use.

Just because you can add some ketchup on a pizza, doe snot mean a bowl of nothing but ketchup is the same as that pizza. THe old nasuverse is a well made tasty pizza. The new one is a bowl of ketchup(read:fanservice) with not much else in it.

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Hmm so if a pandering design is acceptable for you as long as it is explained in the narrative and has significance to the character, then why do you have such a problem with Morgan or even Jack? Both them and Nero have obvious fan service elements that are “justified”/explained in the story, which easily could’ve been, you know, modified or not included. Or do you honestly believe that there was no other option for Nero's appearance apart from what it ended up as?

Morgan and Jack are absolutely not justified. Morgan could look like a seductress sure but she does not look like that - she looks like saber with tasteless stripper clothes.

There are dozens of artist renditions of Morgan Le Fay that are miles above superior and actually convey the seductive theme without shedding away the grown up tone
As an example Stanhope's painting of Morgan Le Fay still portrays her as a seductress but in more grown up fashion fitting of her time period. What nasuverse provided here looks like your average mobile game or chinese MMORPG art.

Jack is overall bad character and bad idea even if we ignore the ass awful anachronistic design. But okay they decided to make a messy filler character like child Jack - its not like we are lacking in victorian era aesthetics information

Pandering is never justified. Because pandering and fanservice exists for sake of pandering and fanservice first an foremost.

Nasuverse always had some fanservice but it was never the point and yes justified erotic content is different from pandering and can be overlooked. This really reminds me of how some of the clique attacked me liking Monogatari trying to claim having erotic content is same as pandering or fanservice.


Yeah, it's not like Nasuverse Medusa was walking around in a short tight dress in "the good days" of F/SN. Again, I'm sure she was only designed that way because it was really important to the story.

FSN strongly implied that


Nice attack tone tho, its nice to see that certain groups brainwashing works nice. It is hilarious that certain people have nothing better to do than throw slander at me for more than two years now. :)


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I always thought Umu should have looked like a Gil genderbend/Gil-face, since her personality mirrors his in multiple ways.


But Gil already is inversion of Artoria - the total opposite of her viewpoint on being a king and what it means


Nero looking like Artoria makes sense both historically since King Arthur's character was inspired by roman emperors, and thematically - nero IS someone in similar position to Artoria, just without Artoria's mary sue traits and with different personality. Big point of her story is the contrast between how Artoria's reign goes and how Nero's goes and what both characters take away from what happened.

Its ongoing theme with F/E really - Extra universe takes familiar cncepts from FSN and turns them upside down:

Fate/Extra and CCC are all about pulling the rug form under your feet that way. Its a story about surreality and unfamiliar reality a story of fakes and different ones, which ties to the main characters journey -
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Again the art depicting Sighiosara where the war takes place is accurate.

Aerial view of Sighisoara


The Altar in the church


Night view of the clock tower


The restaurant in the main square overlooking the tower


Nice details, the newspaper with the title in Romanian saying "the misterious serial killer" and Romanian licence plates on the car although SG does not exist as a combination, but SJ does. SG probably was intended to be Sighisoara
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Another entertaining episode. It seems like the setup is coming together to the first major battle we'll see with multiple servants clashing with the intent to kill (unlike what took place with Spartacus getting absolutely destroyed and Atalanta and Achilles simply scouting and retreating). I would bet that the brother comes along to save his sister though, since it seems too early of an exit for the sister. Frankenstein might also be command spelled over if Chiron is forced to retreat, which I think will be the case since Mordred should have the edge in close quarter combat after the initial surprise attack thrown out by Chiron. Anyway, looking forward to more of this good stuff.

Apocrypha shows us the problem with handing off your IP to another writer though. In Apocrypha, it seems like Mordred was driven to rebel because Artoria never paid her any attention. But this would seem fairly inconsistent to the Artoria we know from FSN, who is a bit stubborn but not a cold-hearted person by nature. Maybe there's a specific reason why Artoria deliberately cold-shouldered Mordred and we'll find out later, but at least from this episode I think Apocrypha--in an effort to reconcile Mordred's love for Artoria and her betrayal of Artoria--has portrayed Artoria in a light that's different from the Artoria we know and love.
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Another entertaining episode. It seems like the setup is coming together to the first major battle we'll see with multiple servants clashing with the intent to kill (unlike what took place with Spartacus getting absolutely destroyed and Atalanta and Achilles simply scouting and retreating). I would bet that the brother comes along to save his sister though, since it seems too early of an exit for the sister. Frankenstein might also be command spelled over if Chiron is forced to retreat, which I think will be the case since Mordred should have the edge in close quarter combat after the initial surprise attack thrown out by Chiron. Anyway, looking forward to more of this good stuff.

Apocrypha shows us the problem with handing off your IP to another writer though. In Apocrypha, it seems like Mordred was driven to rebel because Artoria never paid her any attention. But this would seem fairly inconsistent to the Artoria we know from FSN, who is a bit stubborn but not a cold-hearted person by nature. Maybe there's a specific reason why Artoria deliberately cold-shouldered Mordred and we'll find out later, but at least from this episode I think Apocrypha--in an effort to reconcile Mordred's love for Artoria and her betrayal of Artoria--has portrayed Artoria in a light that's different from the Artoria we know and love.

But that's how Saber was portrayed in FSN.

She tried to be so perfect that she failed to understand others,Knights were leaving her because her role as a king was too perfect.
Paraphrasing what the VN said "People wanted a great King but she surpassed that".

Artoria acts VERY differently during her time than what we see in both FZ and FSN.
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Apocrypha shows us the problem with handing off your IP to another writer though. In Apocrypha, it seems like Mordred was driven to rebel because Artoria never paid her any attention. But this would seem fairly inconsistent to the Artoria we know from FSN, who is a bit stubborn but not a cold-hearted person by nature. Maybe there's a specific reason why Artoria deliberately cold-shouldered Mordred and we'll find out later, but at least from this episode I think Apocrypha--in an effort to reconcile Mordred's love for Artoria and her betrayal of Artoria--has portrayed Artoria in a light that's different from the Artoria we know and love.


What ssjokg said. She's still got that personality, but during her kingship she dons a cold mask.
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Artoria's sister looking like Artoria!!!?? INCONCEIVABLE!!!!!!


Reminder Nero looks like Artoria because of genetics too, but Fai's too much of a hypocrite to accept that so he's making up random, irrelevant reasons as to why Nero is a Saberface

Also I see he's complaining about Morgan having a sexualized design, but he justifies Nero's sexualized design by saying ''it fits her personality!''. So it's ok when it fits Nero's personality, but not ok when Morgan's design fits her personality (which is the fact that Morgan was known for using her looks to seduce men into getting her ways). Gotcha.
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Finally got around to watching this episode. This is probably the best episode so far. Let's go through the highlights.

- We start with... I-Is this... Is this the Battle of Camlann!!? THIS is how all episodes should start. Also, seeing Artoria in Apocrypha was really unexpected for me.

- "Here I'm all up in your country, wrecking your shit"
"Bish, I have Rhongomyniad"
"Where did you pull that spear fr-BLARGHHH!"


Nice touch on keeping Rhongo's design from F/GO too.

- That "C-chi...chi... ue..." was heart wrenching. Kudos to Sawashirou. Also, dat DEEN tribute. Shame it's not on a the hill, though.

- Damn, they're really going all in with the Round Table designs from Grand Order, huh? We see Merlin, Bedivere, Lancelot, Gawain, Trtistan and Agravain. This is like the Camelot chapter all over again... except with no Simba.

- Loli Mordred!? New F/GO Servant in 3..2...

- And, after 13 years, Morgan le Fay finally makes her very first appearance in the Nasuverse. I like the paler hair compared to her sister's bright shining golden. I feel that it's a cool reference to"Excalibur Morgan" with how Alter has the same hair color. It's the "evil blond" color, apparently.

- Loved the look on Mordred's face as she was fangirling hard on Papa Arty.

- "Did I ever tell you how you came to be, little Mordy?"
"MOOOM, this is a TV series airing on a public TV!"
"What, I was gonna say it involved lots of medieval CGI Dragons."
"Huh. Ok, that's goo-"
"And futa semen."
"...ok, that's it, everybody in this country dies."


- Mordred goes up in the world, joins the Round Table and kills all the Mary Sue critics King's haters and rebels.

- Seriously, seeing Mord get all star-eyes for her to be shut down pretty hard was painful to watch. As much as I respect Artoria as a king, that was a pretty crappy thing to do. Goddamn you Artoria, you perfect and awesome king.

- Sisigo gets a call from Waver while Mord plays with the cat. It's a pretty cute scene.

- Um, can you guys focus on something else now? Accelerating these badly detailed frames doesn't exactly distract us from how dodgy they look on the nth repeat. At least have more keyframes.

- Poor homunculus-kun. Well, Astolfo's Master look like the pinnacle of mental stability. Such a lovely face.


- After the weird 10 minutes of filler, the episode finally STARTS WITH FRAN AND HOW UTTERLY ADORABLE SHE IS. WELL DONE, CAULES, FRAN IS TO PRECIOUS FOR THIS WORLD TO FIGHT. TFW YOU WISH YOU WERE THAT POWER PLUG.


- Semiramis Best MILF talks about... wait, ahem, i meant Best MILF Semiramis talks about the "Hanging Gardens of Babylon". Well, for a Noble Phantasm to be one of the original seven Ancient World Wonders, that shit must be broken af. Can't wait.

- Sisigo and Mord get attacked by Jack. And before the fight starts, goddammit, Mord, don't injure the adorable little murder loli.

- I liked that silent attack a lot. Sisigo almost became her mommy there.

- "Our name is Jack the Ripper." *proceeds to sniff Mord*... Ok, maybe injure the murder loli a little bit.

- "I call this badass move: MANA BURST RANK-A"


"Eh, crits are better than a one time 50% Buster buff."
"Ok, you die now."


- Chiron, Legendary Camper, tries to snipe Mord, but "Instinct" is too stronk. Murder loli retreats.

- "People kept comparing us to Marvel, so we said fuck it and went all the way."


- Chiron, Legendary Camper, is also, surprisingly, Legendary Shit Wrecker. Most badass Servant in the show thus far. Mord comes at a very close second. Achilles has the potential to rival both from what we've seen of him at this point.

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Best episode so far. 9/10.
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>She had that outfit because of Shinji. She does not wear it under Sakura in FHA.

>She was summoned with that
>Wears it in HF after "that" happens
>Had that in her backstory in FHA
>Same outfit in FGO

Sure Fai. Sure.
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Decent episode, but there are few things which disturbed me (not mentioning the horrible sound):

1. I hate that obnoxious moment, which is slow-motioned, so you have the time to speak in normal speed. So Mordred cannot dodge Arturia's spear in 5 seconds but can easily dodge Chiron's arrows for which she has a margin of that time. Right.
2. So the rebellion against Arturia is because "she is too perfect"?! I mean..if this the kind of excuse like when a girlfriend leaves you because you are too good for her?
3. Is Mordred a kid? Runs around on all her 4 after a kitten and gets mad because Arturia doesn't talk to her?
4. I don't get the logic of either sending your servant alone saying "Go and have fun! If you die, its ok!" or otherwise going as the master and leaving your servant to disconnect your computer. Why you just don't gangbang the intruder with all what you got?
5. Can someone give me the name of the car Sisigo hides behind? Looks indestructible and even is perfectly driveable after been sprayed by hundreds of bullets!

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Decent episode, but there are few things which disturbed me (not mentioning the horrible sound):

1. I hate that obnoxious moment, which is slow-motioned, so you have the time to speak in normal speed. So Mordred cannot dodge Arturia's spear in 5 seconds but can easily dodge Chiron's arrows for which she has a margin of that time. Right.
2. So the rebellion against Arturia is because "she is too perfect"?! I mean..if this the kind of excuse like when a girlfriend leaves you because you are too good for her?
3. Is Mordred a kid? Runs around on all her 4 after a kitten and gets mad because Arturia doesn't talk to her?
4. I don't get the logic of either sending your servant alone saying "Go and have fun! If you die, its ok!" or otherwise going as the master and leaving your servant to disconnect your computer. Why you just don't gangbang the intruder with all what you got?
5. Can someone give me the name of the car Sisigo hides behind? Looks indestructible and even is perfectly driveable after been sprayed by hundreds of bullets!



1.Obligatory "it is slowed down for the viewer".
2.If you watched FZ you should know that Saber was a king that tried and succeeded to follow the rules regardless or what was happening and what the outcome could be. It reached the point where the people and the Knights started to doubt that she understood them or even had emotions.
3.Yes she is.Mordred is mad because Artoria doesnt recognize has as a knight, a daughter/son(She doesnt know about the latter part anyway) or the rightful heir of the throne.
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ssjokg said:
Scalpelexis said:
Decent episode, but there are few things which disturbed me (not mentioning the horrible sound):

1. I hate that obnoxious moment, which is slow-motioned, so you have the time to speak in normal speed. So Mordred cannot dodge Arturia's spear in 5 seconds but can easily dodge Chiron's arrows for which she has a margin of that time. Right.
2. So the rebellion against Arturia is because "she is too perfect"?! I mean..if this the kind of excuse like when a girlfriend leaves you because you are too good for her?
3. Is Mordred a kid? Runs around on all her 4 after a kitten and gets mad because Arturia doesn't talk to her?
4. I don't get the logic of either sending your servant alone saying "Go and have fun! If you die, its ok!" or otherwise going as the master and leaving your servant to disconnect your computer. Why you just don't gangbang the intruder with all what you got?
5. Can someone give me the name of the car Sisigo hides behind? Looks indestructible and even is perfectly driveable after been sprayed by hundreds of bullets!



1.Obligatory "it is slowed down for the viewer".
2.If you watched FZ you should know that Saber was a king that tried and succeeded to follow the rules regardless or what was happening and what the outcome could be. It reached the point where the people and the Knights started to doubt that she understood them or even had emotions.
3.Yes she is.Mordred is mad because Artoria doesnt recognize has as a knight, a daughter/son(She doesnt know about the latter part anyway) or the rightful heir of the throne.


Thank you! Yes, FZ is already behind me but its been already a few years ago so I can't remember detailed specifics. Though adding to answer 3., I didn't feel from the scene that Artoria is not recognizing Mordred as a knight. He/she is standing there with full armor next to her/him, in the castle. In what way Mordred was not recognized as a knight?
Aug 6, 2017 12:53 PM

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What the Fuck did I just watch?

This was undoubtably the worst episode of the series so far. 0/10.


The autism show




God, How do they manage to write a stupid and retarded dumb character?
You cannot expect anything good from a stupid and retarded dumb chuuni womanchild, which is also a vulgar character for fanservice and fap material.





There comes a point where you just look butthurt.
Will this anime be the new Buddy Complex after the second coming of Bizon Gerafil?



Who, What, Why: How is shounen big dumb guy still alive?
Literally plot armor + random asspull miracle
Well, Jeck would have killed shounen big dumb guy, but Mordred pulls a random asspull miracle and saved your ass.


Is this the famous original car piloted by Kirito in SAO? Looks indestructible and even is perfectly driveable after been sprayed by hundreds of bullets and survived without any scratch! He was able to hotwire it with no tools whatever in approximately 0.5 milliseconds too.
more and more plot armor + random asspull |o|

is shounen big dumb guy a new Kirito?


This show is such a piece of shit and it gets worse with every episode.
The battles are quite boring and bland.
Literally all characters are retards and/or unlikable cunts, especially the stupid and retarded dumb chuuni womanchild, and his master shounen big dumb guy.
The whole thing is boring as shit.
I dropped out.
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^wtf

Scalpelexis said:
ssjokg said:


1.Obligatory "it is slowed down for the viewer".
2.If you watched FZ you should know that Saber was a king that tried and succeeded to follow the rules regardless or what was happening and what the outcome could be. It reached the point where the people and the Knights started to doubt that she understood them or even had emotions.
3.Yes she is.Mordred is mad because Artoria doesnt recognize has as a knight, a daughter/son(She doesnt know about the latter part anyway) or the rightful heir of the throne.


Thank you! Yes, FZ is already behind me but its been already a few years ago so I can't remember detailed specifics. Though adding to answer 3., I didn't feel from the scene that Artoria is not recognizing Mordred as a knight. He/she is standing there with full armor next to her/him, in the castle. In what way Mordred was not recognized as a knight?
Ah my bad.Dont know what I was thinking when typing that.

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My god I felt like I was playing FGO's Camelot all over again. All those beautiful servants! <3
Even a split second of Saber Gilles in there.... goddamn......
If only they did a better job of animating Morgan Le Fay

But what the hell with Mo-Chan facing off with that cat in the street there, lol. That was totally ridiculous.

Then we had Celenike going full yandere and mutilating not only a doll, but an actual homonculus corpse as well.... Astolfo's lucky he's not anywhere near her this episode.
The rest of the family are doing their own thing in the meantime (Roche's enthusiasm is pretty infectious I'll admit), and Fran-chan provides a lovely moment of reprieve before the action begins. Her smile is beautiful to say the least.

Then we finally get some action at the end there. Mo-Chan against Jack and then Chiron, whilst Lion-Go-San faces off against Fiore unexpectedly. Did he actually use the fingers from that Monkey's paw as bullets against Fiore at the end there? Holy Shit....

I can't wait to see the conclusion of this skirmish right now.
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While I haven't watched the episode yet, I think I got a bit of a pissed off at an argument here for what @Fai said. Maybe this is just me giving a shoot on the foot here and perhaps being opened to get people to raise their ammos at me.

Pandering is never justified. Because pandering and fanservice exists for sake of pandering and fanservice first an foremost.


I dunno if this is just me or not but that type or argument is rather bullshit to me. Yes, in a sense Pandering isn't justified but what's the actual problem in that? As if the shows that have more of a coherent or well written storyline aren't pandering because everything in the medium is pandering to one group or another. Doesn't matter which group its still pandering.

Now you can say that fanservice can be considered pandering, but same can go to mature shows, etc. Maybe I'm taking this out of context or anything but that slight detail bugs me out of the fact that it feels more like pandering itself is bad.

By that logic I can consider whatever caters to your personal preference pandering because it's focusing on what you like.

Not trying to attack you nor anything but I want to point this out.
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I liked the episode, even if the gag with Mordred running around with the cat was just a little too much of recycled animations.
That aside, as an adaptation I think this is one of the best episodes yet and I'm glad.

I'm not saying that much because for now there is little to say for me.
And also because I just woke up and I don't have the mental strength to argue with Fai's delusions and paranoia (I can barely construct a proper sentence in English right now), so I'll just read his posts and laugh.

As a side note, it was already mentioned but I have to give credit to A-1 for the attention to details: Sighisoara looks beautiful and quite identical to the real one. The city scenery is always been on point in this series.
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I think some animation felt off... Or is it just me?
Mordred looked very pissed off at jack and chiron is amusing for me
And her master is badass... Reminds me of Kiritsugu
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And here i am still waiting.
Aug 7, 2017 3:49 AM

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Jack is really kawaii, I know how weird it sounds but she really is!
Lol, that Mordred vs neko fight was amazing.
Aug 7, 2017 4:07 AM

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rider of black is a dude lmaooo
Aug 7, 2017 4:24 AM
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Nice episode really good fight scene with jack the ripper
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I really don´t understand how Arthur can be a father if he is a woman in the fate/ universe. Arthur was even married to Guenevere in the fate/zero series.

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I really don´t understand how Arthur can be a father if he is a woman in the fate/ universe. Arthur was even married to Guenevere in the fate/zero series.

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Artoria, normally female, was a pseudo-male at the time due to Merlin's magecraft, so Morgan enchanted her with a spell to extract sperm from her. Morgan developed it within her own ovary, and made the child into a homunculus clone of Artoria
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