Which version of SHIROU EMIYA do you like the best?
| I have mixed feelings with Shirou as I can't seem to connect with his character well. To those who have known Shirou for a while, which version of his is your favorite? In which FS route do you like his ideals/motivations best? Which route do you think he was the best written and be able to connect with you? |
| F0XFIRE said: OP 4 most butthurt bitch on MAL. |
| 1) There's this exact thread in the first cour section. 2) Y no Aachaa? |
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| Archer. |
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| you should include archer here. if you made this thread with the mind set that i think your making it under then archer should be on the list too. AND mind of steel shirou and put SPOILERS in the title so we can speak freely ALSO. syou should include an "all of the above" option too. when we're going into this whole shirou stuff one thing people shouldnt overlook is the fact that all of the shirou's your seeing in Fate/stay night is the same person who goes through 3 different character journey's due to how his story pans out. |
MaloghurstJun 24, 2015 5:58 AM
| UBW Shirou. |
InsertanamehereJun 24, 2015 6:07 AM
| UBW Shirou because he has the healthiest mentality out of the three.Btw,OP you aren't supposed to relate with a character like Shirou.If you do so,then there is something fundamentally wrong with you. But I guess then if you want to be a person that has a tortured past and future (as evidenced by archer) , is thoroughly screwed up emotionally to not be able to even smile (until the end of the show with Rin), to have PTSD from a fire where as a 8 year old kid he saw 500 people die along with his parents. Also yes he wishes to be a person with no self preservation who jumps into everything knowing full well he will be killed. Oh the grand, amazing life of being a forever mentally scarred human being.,then sure you can "relate" or "connect" to him. |
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| There was already thread about this. UBW Shirou won due to him having the most mature, healthy and realistic outlook towards idealism and life. That and he starts being competent earliest(prety much from first berserker encounter) and delivers most of snark and trolling And yeah, you are not supposed to "relate" to Shirou. For that you'd have to be insane sociopath, have PTSD, have your entire life destroyed alongside hundreds of people you saw die and have dedicated your life towards an impossible an utterly insane goal just because that's the only way for you to continue functioning/living. |
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| lol how is Fate Shirou even winning old thread http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1348971 |
| HF shirou as it was the only route where he managed to be a truly compelling protagonist imo. |
Insertanamehere said: lol how is Fate Shirou even winning old thread http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1348971 Seiba fanbois. It should even out. |
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laidellent said: sure as hell wouldnt wanna meet the guy who can self insert Tohno ShikiUBW Shirou because he has the healthiest mentality out of the three.Btw,OP you aren't supposed to relate with a character like Shirou.If you do so,then there is something fundamentally wrong with you. But I guess then if you want to be a person that has a tortured past and future (as evidenced by archer) , is thoroughly screwed up emotionally to not be able to even smile (until the end of the show with Rin), to have PTSD from a fire where as a 8 year old kid he saw 500 people die along with his parents. Also yes he wishes to be a person with no self preservation who jumps into everything knowing full well he will be killed. Oh the grand, amazing life of being a forever mentally scarred human being.,then sure you can "relate" or "connect" to him. |
| Heavens Feel Shirou, by far. |
CookingPriest said: Insertanamehere said: lol how is Fate Shirou even winning old thread http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1348971 Seiba fanbois. It should even out. >Implying that Seiba fanboys all love Fate Shirou the most. Salty. :^) There ya go, fixed it for ya. ;) Maloghurst said: laidellent said: sure as hell wouldnt wanna meet the guy who can self insert Tohno ShikiUBW Shirou because he has the healthiest mentality out of the three.Btw,OP you aren't supposed to relate with a character like Shirou.If you do so,then there is something fundamentally wrong with you. But I guess then if you want to be a person that has a tortured past and future (as evidenced by archer) , is thoroughly screwed up emotionally to not be able to even smile (until the end of the show with Rin), to have PTSD from a fire where as a 8 year old kid he saw 500 people die along with his parents. Also yes he wishes to be a person with no self preservation who jumps into everything knowing full well he will be killed. Oh the grand, amazing life of being a forever mentally scarred human being.,then sure you can "relate" or "connect" to him. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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| with that being said. thinking you can really "connect"/"relate" to someone like shirou is almost like saying you can relate to Kirei as a person. if your trying to claim that you can then i'm inclined to call bullshit. |
Maloghurst said: with that being said. thinking you can really "connect"/"relate" to someone like shirou is almost like saying you can relate to Kirei as a person. if your trying to claim that you can then i'm inclined to call bullshit. People like that exist, tho. Whether or not you call bullshit. |
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Maloghurst said: with that being said. thinking you can really "connect"/"relate" to someone like shirou is almost like saying you can relate to Kirei as a person. if your trying to claim that you can then i'm inclined to call bullshit. Considering Shirou and Kirei are exactly identical in terms of their psychology and drives, yeah. Nasuverse protagonists are not someone you should "self insert" into. Hell, Tohno Shiki is written to be SCARED of. |
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Maloghurst said: laidellent said: sure as hell wouldnt wanna meet the guy who can self insert Tohno ShikiUBW Shirou because he has the healthiest mentality out of the three.Btw,OP you aren't supposed to relate with a character like Shirou.If you do so,then there is something fundamentally wrong with you. But I guess then if you want to be a person that has a tortured past and future (as evidenced by archer) , is thoroughly screwed up emotionally to not be able to even smile (until the end of the show with Rin), to have PTSD from a fire where as a 8 year old kid he saw 500 people die along with his parents. Also yes he wishes to be a person with no self preservation who jumps into everything knowing full well he will be killed. Oh the grand, amazing life of being a forever mentally scarred human being.,then sure you can "relate" or "connect" to him. I hate that guy so I won't bother to do that. |
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CookingPriest said: Maloghurst said: with that being said. thinking you can really "connect"/"relate" to someone like shirou is almost like saying you can relate to Kirei as a person. if your trying to claim that you can then i'm inclined to call bullshit. Considering Shirou and Kirei are exactly identical in terms of their psychology and drives, yeah. Nasuverse protagonists are not someone you should "self insert" into. Hell, Tohno Shiki is written to be SCARED of. I don't think anyone is actually scared of him. ~.~ |
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mira-nyan said: yes i know people like that exist. i said "inclined" not "will" call bullshitMaloghurst said: with that being said. thinking you can really "connect"/"relate" to someone like shirou is almost like saying you can relate to Kirei as a person. if your trying to claim that you can then i'm inclined to call bullshit. People like that exist, tho. Whether or not you call bullshit. |
Maloghurst said: mira-nyan said: yes i know people like that exist. i said "inclined" not "will" call bullshitPeople like that exist, tho. Whether or not you call bullshit. It doesn't change what I mean, tho. |
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| Heavens Feel = Prillya>>>>>The Rest. Prillya is just HF Shirou with more girth to his loins anyway. |
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mira-nyan said: CookingPriest said: Considering Shirou and Kirei are exactly identical in terms of their psychology and drives, yeah. Nasuverse protagonists are not someone you should "self insert" into. Hell, Tohno Shiki is written to be SCARED of. I don't think anyone is actually scared of him. ~.~ "tohno gland" people are not. Anyone SANE however is. The first healthy reaction to ANYTHING about Tohno Shiki is "holy fucking shit, this dude is fucked up and I would NEVER EVER want to meet him in real life" WrongPriest said: Heavens Feel = Prillya>>>>>The Rest. Prillya is just HF Shirou with more girth to his loins anyway. Prillya Shirou does not base his decisions on how much he wants to have sex so no. |
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| UBW!Shirou. Stop making obvious choice polls. |
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| I don't have "favourite" Shirou. All Shirou's as separate beings are uninteresting. I like the fact that we can see how he evolved in 3 different situations. Without that Shirou is just annoying protagonist. Marloges said: Heavens Feel Shirou, by far. But |
CookingPriest said: mira-nyan said: I don't think anyone is actually scared of him. ~.~ "tohno gland" people are not. Anyone SANE however is. The first healthy reaction to ANYTHING about Tohno Shiki is "holy fucking shit, this dude is fucked up and I would NEVER EVER want to meet him in real life" No. >:I Plus humans are pretty curious. I'm sure they'd find overly extreme people fascinating. |
mira-pyonJun 24, 2015 6:52 AM
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| UBW Shirou. He's the only Shirou i think i can personally get along with without feeling the urge every 5 minutes to punch him in the face (Fate) or the balls (HF). HF Shirou is still way more tolerable for me than than Fate's, though. So i think it goes something like this: UBW Shirou > HF Shirou > Archer > Fate Shirou Need to catch up with Prillya first to form an opinion about its Shirou. |
mira-nyan said: CookingPriest said: "tohno gland" people are not. Anyone SANE however is. The first healthy reaction to ANYTHING about Tohno Shiki is "holy fucking shit, this dude is fucked up and I would NEVER EVER want to meet him in real life" No. >:I Plus humans are pretty curious. I'm sure they'd find overly extreme people fascinating. eh....Mira,normal people won't |
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laidellent said: eh....Mira,normal people won't By normal people you mean >You >Yourself Ofc, if they weren't interested, they wouldn't read anything that he belongs to. :/ |
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mira-nyan said: laidellent said: eh....Mira,normal people won't By normal people you mean >You >Yourself Ofc, if they weren't interested, they wouldn't read anything that he belongs to. :/ FYI ,I hate Shiki Tohno.I started with Fate and only after finishing it,I read Tsuki to understand certain other things better.I was about to drop it midway but the lore always intrigued me to the point I was able to finish it.I can ignore one sasuga rapist if it means I can understand the world setting better. Also,Arc ,Ciel(kinda)and Sacchin master race. |
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| You can read about someone while still not ever wanting to see such people in real life. Silence of the Lambs and all that. |
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CookingPriest said: You can read about someone while still not ever wanting to see such people in real life. Silence of the Lambs and all that. laidellent said: mira-nyan said: By normal people you mean >You >Yourself Ofc, if they weren't interested, they wouldn't read anything that he belongs to. :/ FYI ,I hate Shiki Tohno.I started with Fate and only after finishing it,I read Tsuki to understand certain other things better.I was about to drop it midway but the lore always intrigued me to the point I was able to finish it.I can ignore one sasuga rapist if it means I can understand the world setting better. Also,Arc ,Ciel(kinda)and Sacchin master race. Well IDK about you guys but I find him interesting. And |
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| VN UBW Shirou because 1.Most objective and realistic look on his ideals and life. 2. Even after understanding that his ideal can't be achieved still follows it with taking his limits into consideration( Rather than abandoning them for a worm s....) because it's not wrong and is strong enough to reject his superior future self(which is his most immature self) and stating that he is not wrong. 3. Has the most natural romance and character progression(no "girls shouldn't fight" or going after a worm s......). |
mira-nyan said: Well IDK about you guys but I find him interesting. So do I. ... |
| His HF version, after that, his UBW one. |
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: this poll was made by a rather entheusiastic new fan who doesnt particularly care for how "not-dark" shirou isI thought UBW Shirou single-handlely decimated the previous poll. Someone opened another one........well the answer is obvious. |
| I like the one who says that people die when they are killed |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
mira-nyan said: . What? |
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Comic_Sans said: and that girls deserved to be raped for not being feminine enoughI like the one who says that people die when they are killed |
| "I really don't like Shirou as a character and I think there are much better written characters in Fate" - This option is here because of Miura-sama's perfect vision that portrays the 'PERFECT MAN' beyond perfect. |
| The Faker is a dense repulsive idiot. There are many other characters who are much better written, such as the magnificent The King of Heroes. |
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ZeroDragon said: your just mad because the anime made you out to just be a spamin ass baby back bitch. all your loyal fans are now drowning in their tears not realising they're all just puppets. puppets that fill the cups with wine and Yuetsu.The Faker is a dense repulsive idiot. There are many other characters who are much better written, such as the magnificent The King of Heroes. |
| Shirou Kotomine. In terms of development, UBW Shirou. In terms of combat power, 3rei Shirou. |
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| He didn't throw away his ideal. He just changed it significantly. |
FakePriest said: HF Shirou. UBW Shirou isn't "complete" if he were faced with a dilemma of saving either Rin or 2 random people then what would he do? Either follow in Kerry's footsteps or abandon his ideals to save his loved one. So HF Shirou is the most "complete" and realistic one as he has thrown away his impossible ideal for his loved one. Plus it was only in HF that I really really came to like Shirou. If Shirou was faced in that situation, he would save Rin and continue on being a hero. He accepts that he can't do what he can't do. And if push comes to shove, giving him no other choices, he will save the people more precious to him. HF Shirou doesn't throw away his ideals, he just turns it on his head. He still wants to be a hero, but to his loved ones, not everyone(including strangers). |
mira-pyonJun 24, 2015 9:29 AM
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: the only thing on the king of heroe mind ZeroDragon said: The Faker is a dense repulsive idiot. There are many other characters who are much better written, such as the magnificent The King of Heroes. So King of Heroes, i always wondered something...........how that Arm Slice and Headshot felt especially when delivered to you by your most hated Fakers. An accurate description if you please.......... BR, AD and GA still make the threads fun |
FakePriest said: Yeah I know but that's pretty much throwing it away. He didn't save everyone and picked Sakura. HF Shirou is more ready to save his loved one when push comes to shove. Who know what UBW Shirou will do, maybe he'd try to save everyone and fail. No, you're thinking of FateShirou. Like I said, he knows what he can't do. HF Shirou: Save Sakura, I am her knight. Everyone else is always secondary. UBW Shirou: I can only save one. I accept that I can't save all of them and since Rin is the most precious to me, I'll choose her. Ofc, it's an immediate choice for HF Shirou, but UBW Shirou will still choose Rin, rather than trying to do something he knows he can't. He isn't too selfish, but he isn't selfless either; he's thought about his decision. And it's best to think logically before acting. |
mira-pyonJun 24, 2015 9:35 AM
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FakePriest said: mira-nyan said: No, you're thinking of FateShirou. Like I said, he knows what he can't do. HF Shirou: Save Sakura, I am her knight. Everyone else is always secondary. UBW Shirou: I can only save one. I accept that I can't save all of them and since Rin is the most precious to me, I'll choose her. Ofc, it's an immediate choice for HF Shirou, but UBW Shirou will still choose Rin, rather than trying to do something he knows he can't. He isn't too selfish, but he isn't selfless either; he's thought about his decision. And it's best to think logically before acting. Yeah ur probably right well the only time I really came to like Shirou was HF so w/e Finally, I won a debate against you. VICTORY!!!!!!!!!11111ONEONEONE   |
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