| At first he was trying to protect the princess but then he tried to take over the world? I see how earth made him kind of like Lelouch (zero) from code Geass , as he was the fault and after hi demise everything became better. But that was clearly not Slaine's intentions given what happened in the final. So What was he trying to do the whole time?! I have no idea what his thought process was. Anyone , please help me |
| Shirayuki= Most Perfect Female MC ever |
| No one knows. |
| Do not compare this to anything Code Geass |
abyss333 said: At first he was trying to protect the princess but then he tried to take over the world? I see how earth made him kind of like Lelouch (zero) from code Geass , as he was the fault and after hi demise everything became better. But that was clearly not Slaine's intentions given what happened in the final. So What was he trying to do the whole time?! I have no idea what his thought process was. Anyone , please help me From my believe he trying to go about creating a new faction on earth consisting of Counts that are/could be forced to be loyal to Seylum and once he achieved it he was have her take the throne to ensure an empire that would follow her rule.. but when things didnt go his way especially with Seylum been rescued by Cain/rejecting the path he was taking to achieve it and Inaho getting in his way he broke mentally giving us what happened in the last couple eps |
| I am not. i am saying they tried to imply he was someone like ZERO (thats the only character i know like that) but he clearly wasnt. |
| Shirayuki= Most Perfect Female MC ever |
IZEROII said: Do not compare this to anything Code Geass Actually it's pretty comparable, and Slaine is a mix of Lelouch and Suzaku and some Char. These writers used these 3 characters as the template for Slaine, and it's painfully obvious. However, this show was horribly written. |
Homura_ said: The same motivations Gai had from Guilty Crown. Better comparison than Code Geass. Ugh, don't shame a good series. |
antonnn said: Homura_ said: The same motivations Gai had from Guilty Crown. Better comparison than Code Geass. Ugh, don't shame a good series. Thank you. Both are inferior attempts. |
antonnn said: Homura_ said: The same motivations Gai had from Guilty Crown. Better comparison than Code Geass. Ugh, don't shame a good series. Look, I get why you are offended but you really can make Code Geass comparisons (and even Gundam 00 but I'm a little sketchy on the Valvrave comparisons since Inaho got off fine here). The inspiration for some of this show's direction is very clear. Just because it hurts to associate with Code Geass doesn't mean you should dismiss the comparisons like they aren't there. |
MetaKite said: antonnn said: Better comparison than Code Geass. Ugh, don't shame a good series. Look, I get why you are offended but you really can make Code Geass comparisons (and even Gundam 00 but I'm a little sketchy on the Valvrave comparisons since Inaho got off fine here). The inspiration for some of this show's direction is very clear. Just because it hurts to associate with Code Geass doesn't mean you should dismiss the comparisons like they aren't there. Exactly. Three big mecha anime characters were the obvious templates for Slaine: Lelouch, Suzaku and Char. Two of those characters are Code Geass characters. |
| I'm not offended, it's just the series doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as series that are actually good. Next thing you know somebody will compare it to LoGH. Oh God. |
| Writers weren't competent enough to give him a plan. They ran out of time to do anything interesting so they went with the boring villain route. |
| All he really did was cause more pointless death. |
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| Edgy teenager syndrome. Or rather just shit writing. |
| It's really not that difficult. The show, for all it's terrible writing, makes it clear he's trying to destroy barriers between Vers and Earth in order to create a utopia over which Asseylum can rule. |
xiiaobronz3 said: 7. He made used of Saazbaum to get the rank of Count 8. However, just a rank was not enough due to his birth as a Terran 9. In order to gain trust from other Counts, he destroyed a base alone. 10. After gaining much trust from the Counts via deceiving methods, Asseylum woke up and she did not approve Slaine's actions. 11. Asseylum managed to escape and broke the trust between the Counts and Slaine 12. This led to Slaine's downfall. Asseylum left him but he still could activate aldnoah drives , most of the counts that sided with slaine on the first place had the same beliefs as him and despised the idea of peace with earth. Slaine had everything he needed to make a third faction and go to civil war with vers (maybe) and reach the top. Even at the end they tell us that most castles at earth didn't accept the treaty and still occupy earth territory and that Asseylum will visit them to change their minds ... Slaine HAD all the cards he needed to go a step further but the blondy left him and he emoquitted. Through season 2 I was cheering for Slaine since he was the only interesting character, but the creators remembered that Inaho should be the protagonist and ended the series . Inaho , the character that could be called a computer AI even BEFORE he got the "cheat" eye... Inaho , much interesting , such wow |
Makaze_no_Moujuu said: IZEROII said: Do not compare this to anything Code Geass Actually it's pretty comparable, and Slaine is a mix of Lelouch and Suzaku and some Char. These writers used these 3 characters as the template for Slaine, and it's painfully obvious. Except Lelouch was smart, Suzaku was brilliant pilot even while piloting inferior mech and Char was charismatic. If by mix of those 3 you mean he took all positive traits of those 3 and replaced them with 3 bland ones, then sure. Slaine is just, well, strange. |
nina4life said: Makaze_no_Moujuu said: Actually it's pretty comparable, and Slaine is a mix of Lelouch and Suzaku and some Char. These writers used these 3 characters as the template for Slaine, and it's painfully obvious. Except Lelouch was smart, Suzaku was brilliant pilot even while piloting inferior mech and Char was charismatic. If by mix of those 3 you mean he took all positive traits of those 3 and replaced them with 3 bland ones, then sure. Slaine is just, well, strange. Hey, I did say the show was horribly written, but you edited that outta my post. |
xiiaobronz3 said: This is what I came to understand after thinking about Slaine's objectives. First Season 1. He was trying to save or help Asseylum from the corrupted Counts 2. However the "good/correct" methods was not good enough 3. In the end, Asseylum was shot by Saazbaum 4. And he shot Inaho due to jealousy/envy as Asseylum was shot trying to save him Second Season 5. He learnt that he needed power in order to protect Asseylum while believing that she would wake up from her coma. 6. Once again the reason Asseylum was due to the Counts and he believed that conquering the Earth with the Counts under his rule would protect her from harm 7. He made used of Saazbaum to get the rank of Count 8. However, just a rank was not enough due to his birth as a Terran 9. In order to gain trust from other Counts, he destroyed a base alone. 10. After gaining much trust from the Counts via deceiving methods, Asseylum woke up and she did not approve Slaine's actions. 11. Asseylum managed to escape and broke the trust between the Counts and Slaine 12. This led to Slaine's downfall. To me Aldnoah.zero is very good but it did not show Slaine's intentions properly, whether to be like Lelouch or something else. In the end, he became a tragic hero, an opposite role and objectives from Inaho because of their different backgrounds and encounters. Great comment. Now things become a little more clear for me. :P |
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Makaze_no_Moujuu said: nina4life said: Except Lelouch was smart, Suzaku was brilliant pilot even while piloting inferior mech and Char was charismatic. If by mix of those 3 you mean he took all positive traits of those 3 and replaced them with 3 bland ones, then sure. Slaine is just, well, strange. Hey, I did say the show was horribly written, but you edited that outta my post. I'm like this show, leaving all the important bits out to create unnecessary drama. |
| I don't really get Slaines character because first it was obvious that he had a crush on the princess and wanted to protect her and stuff but somehow it ended up totally different and it was like he didn't care for the love of the princess any longer and that was really odd because I really thought that he was the kind of person who would beg her for forgiveness or something I don't really see why taking over the world was more important to him than the princess o.O |
Viktor_Otaku said: Dragon_Slayer_X said: Why are you interpreting that you need my consent to make delusions.............just keep them as delusions only or people will point them out. Oh i am truly sorry because my narrow and biased POV sees Slaine as the messed up character he is and i don't need your approval to post either. You not liking a character is fine, you attack other posters on how they view the character based on their own valid interpretations goes to show what a big baby you are. And you do the very same thing with anyone not part of your echo chamber of delusions |
NorthBayAnime said: Shoko-tan said: I don't really get Slaines character because first it was obvious that he had a crush on the princess and wanted to protect her and stuff but somehow it ended up totally different and it was like he didn't care for the love of the princess any longer and that was really odd because I really thought that he was the kind of person who would beg her for forgiveness or something I don't really see why taking over the world was more important to him than the princess o.O That love ended when he saw Inaho had befriended the princess. Slaine was just salty the rest of the series. Yup pretty much. Jealous obsession is pathetic |
| nobody knows...fly high, how did we get lost in here? even the &Z(anime OP) lyrics mentions what all that was XD |
Jackyhk said: What was Slaine's intention? Imagine if Lelouch tried to save the world, but then Nunnally actually is so OP that just because she said she wants all the fighting to stop, and everyone actually stopped fighting and started getting along with each other, but all of this is happening while Lelouch is still in his evil emperor phase and haven't gotten to the sacrificing part. But honestly, god knows. The director wanted to make Slaine looks alot like the "key" to save this world by being the evil, but then towards the last few episodes Slaine is suddenly a pile of weak sauce, managed to lose princess by accident, and even let her have the opportunity to flip the table. They still want to portray Slaine as a good guy throughout, but because he failed miserably, it made him looked like a wuss instead of a vigilante savior with a good intention all along. I mean they still made Slaine the "source of evil" by blaming the war on him, but the way it ended made it seems like Slaine was forced into submission and so it made Slaine looks really really stupid. And P.S. the OP power is given by the idiot who directed the script, because it makes ZERO sense how everyone suddenly listens to Assyleum last minute and stopped fighting. It's extremely retarded. But anyway. There you go, Slaine in a nutshell. Slaine was never like Lelouch |
fimbu1vetr said: Slaine was a plot device to be defeated season 2. That is all. Pretty much this. They ruined his character at the end of season 1, so that there would be a bad guy to fight in s2. |
Darklight0303 said: Jackyhk said: What was Slaine's intention? Imagine if Lelouch tried to save the world, but then Nunnally actually is so OP that just because she said she wants all the fighting to stop, and everyone actually stopped fighting and started getting along with each other, but all of this is happening while Lelouch is still in his evil emperor phase and haven't gotten to the sacrificing part. But honestly, god knows. The director wanted to make Slaine looks alot like the "key" to save this world by being the evil, but then towards the last few episodes Slaine is suddenly a pile of weak sauce, managed to lose princess by accident, and even let her have the opportunity to flip the table. They still want to portray Slaine as a good guy throughout, but because he failed miserably, it made him looked like a wuss instead of a vigilante savior with a good intention all along. I mean they still made Slaine the "source of evil" by blaming the war on him, but the way it ended made it seems like Slaine was forced into submission and so it made Slaine looks really really stupid. And P.S. the OP power is given by the idiot who directed the script, because it makes ZERO sense how everyone suddenly listens to Assyleum last minute and stopped fighting. It's extremely retarded. But anyway. There you go, Slaine in a nutshell. Slaine was never like Lelouch Yes he was. It's PAINFULLY obvious. But yes, Slaine isn't as horrible a person, nor as tyrannical, nor as sociopathical as Lelouch. That's where they're different. Other than that, there' s clear similarities that anyone, who's seen both series, can see because these writers slap us with the similarities. |
| Oh also, unlike Lelouch, Slaine didn't try to rape anyone. Nor did he have mental break downs. Nor did he need a Deus Ex Machina to accomplish anything. |
Makaze_no_MoujuuMar 29, 2015 4:37 PM
Makaze_no_Moujuu said: Oh also, unlike Lelouch, Slaine didn't try to rape anyone. Nor did he have mental break downs. Nor did he need a Deus Ex Machina to accomplish anything. No mental break downs? That is debatable in Slaine's case. He unloaded a clip into Saazbuam as the realization came he inadvertently help Saaz "kill" Asseylum. Then he just let Inaho have it out of spite and jealousy. You could say Slaine snapped then. |
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