| Its just me or this "thing" has generic written all over it? When ordinary is the first adjective used to describe the faggot (read hero) of the story i get chills. I can already forsee the generic bullshit (read comedy) and the hyper ultra super over ninethousend generic thinngy that those japanese guys call plot. Such generic plot deserves such generic meme. So far it seems that japanese peopel took american people's motto ("If violence isn't solving, you just ain't doing it right"), and adpted (read copied) to "If ecchi isn't solving, you just ain't putting it enough"... |
| I really don't think this will be more ecchi than other shows, and however, if you don't like it just don't watch it, Imo... |
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| I really can't understand, Lucky Star is moe, K-ON is moe, is it that strange? For me it would be more "meh" if they were full of fights and drama... An ecchi anime has ecchi in it, a moe anime has moe in it, is this so unusual? It isn't that "they're not trying anymore", it's that you're watching the wrong kind of anime for you lol |
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TommasoDS said: I don`t know if your argument was directed to me, but anyway i'd like to point that that i have nothing against moe/ecchi.I really can't understand, Lucky Star is moe, K-ON is moe, is it that strange? For me it would be more "meh" if they were full of fights and drama... An ecchi anime has ecchi in it, a moe anime has moe in it, is this so unusual? It isn't that "they're not trying anymore", it's that you're watching the wrong kind of anime for you lol I don't use that as criteria to watch or not a series. If i did, watching Maburaho and rating it high as i did would be just hypocrisy. (I don't concider Lucky Star moe. Seriously.) Its not me who is watching the wrong type of anime, its that 17 out of 20 animes released are those generic shonen anime. The other 3 are generic shoujo anime, and two "different" types of anime. In case you still didn't understand what i'm complaining about, i'm saying that lately we are getting more and more generic over original. Actually it wouldn't be much dificult to make an original anime out of those steriotypes. Or even, explore the story after a confession. After all, its not going to be "happily ever after" after a confession/drama. There is so much to explore as a story for anime, that its quite disappointing to see it being so focused on repetitive series of generic kids with douzens of girls trying to rape him. Something that very rarely happens in real life. Note: My last comment on the first post might have caused the misunderstanding, but i don't feel like editing it since it is the truth i belive. Anyway, you must agree with me that so far 95% of all shonen romance animes were harems that recycled over and over again the same jokes, plots and characters. the_seventh_l said: I agree.They're not even trying anymore :| |
RyushiSep 10, 2009 7:49 PM
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the_seventh_l said: Ryushi said: Its just me or this "thing" has generic written all over it? No, not just you. Looks rather "meh". And very ecchi/moeblob. They're not even trying anymore :| Not just you, I probably won't stand watching five minutes of this thing. Even the trailer was boringly generic. canephalanx said: Everybody loves Generic. Except you guys. Not really, I can tell you that A LOT of people don't like these kinds of shows. Especially those who enjoy watching quality direction, creative plots and developped characters like me. |
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| "Who enjoy bla bla bla like me", and so? Who cares? Go watch some OMG-SERIOUS-F**KING-DRAMA-THIS-IS-A-PRO-SHOW-NOT-LIKE-THOSE-THAT-ARE-FUNNY! and don't bother us with this kind of (useless) comments thanks, and... because a lot of people hate these shows... when there won't be ecchi shows anymore call us eh... Ryushi said: Anyway, you must agree with me that so far 95% of all shonen romance animes were harems that recycled over and over again the same jokes, plots and characters. Well not really, I agree that they can make better jokes and plots but it's like to go to watch a horror film, you KNOW that there will be scary scenes, the usual bad character, the good, the girl etc. They're all cliched but if you *really* like that kind of show you'll enjoy it, I think the same thing for anime, if I like romances I already know that there will be a love story between the characters (and maybe because of this I'll hate action anime). And... like I always say, I'd obviously be happy if they make an... uhm original ecchi anime, but I don't want to watch a clone of Dragon Ball just because it had to be "original" (and an ecchi version of DB would be original for sure lol), every kind of show have to remain in its kind... I hope I explained this right. |
TommasoDSSep 14, 2009 5:05 AM
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| I would say the same as you if it was a year before this. Its because of people with low standards and expectatives that this type of crap is accepted, and then aired. There are much better stories (read manga) out there to be aired yet they are "on hold" because all harem-like animays get priority over somethign original. If directors notice that people ain't wachign anymore such generic works they migh start searching for original content. Surely this won't change at all people's opinion towards generic anime, neither reach any anime company, but i still feel like saying. I know its nearly impossible, but i'm still using my freedom of speech just to point out this to people here. just like you are using to protect your generic series. |
| Well, it's good to believe in something, but they continue to make this kind of shows, this means that people watch them, I know this doesn't mean that they're good but they also are not s**t. I don't know if I understood what you mean by "There are much better stories (read manga)", what I think is that almost ALL ecchi anime are less good than their manga counterpart, that's true. However, if someone "on-holds" (sorry for this word lol)... uhm, Gankutsuou for example, to watch Love Hina he isn't a stupid or "has low standards", afterall Gankutsuou is there for him, "he" just prefers another kind of shows; I don't understand why people watch dramas (like I am not suffering enough in real life) but I still don't say that dramas are cliched and not original... oh well, I say it but against fan-boy-trolls I think we have different and too far positions, I still think that many anime (or manga) are nice even if they're similar because if someone likes a kind of show he'll enjoy almost all of them (that's for me, don't know if other people think the same), and that's for ALL kind of anime and that if someone ALWAYS watch shows that he know he'll not like he's just not normal IMO. |
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Ryushi said: There is so much to explore as a story for anime, that its quite disappointing to see it being so focused on repetitive series of generic kids with douzens of girls trying to rape him. Something that very rarely happens in real life. No shit. A good 85-90% of anime doesn't happen in real life. The question is, what do you even get out of this? You think it'll suck. That's fine, in your head just write it off and keep it moving. With it being as generic as you say it is--honest question--is it really worth all the words you've typed to complain about it? |
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SageShinigami said: It was worth every single second of it.No shit. A good 85-90% of anime doesn't happen in real life. The question is, what do you even get out of this? You think it'll suck. That's fine, in your head just write it off and keep it moving. With it being as generic as you say it is--honest question--is it really worth all the words you've typed to complain about it? If it didn't, i wouldn't be posting here. Now, for the unrealistic trait of anime thinggy you pointed out: I guess i expressed myself in the worst manner possible. Trying to make it less abstract would mean 2 things: 1. Stories , even those that don't resort to the fantasy genre, usualy show unrealistic plot devices which very doubtly would ever occur in real life, which in some cases ruins the series. 2. All romance shows end up basing themselves on harem as a main font for jokes and climaxes, which kind of ignores all other possibiliteis to be explored that hen in real life. I went off topic on that observation, and abistracted it too much. Now, please don't use silly arguments like "With it being as generic as you say it is--honest question--is it really worth all the words you've typed to complain about it?" That is just a mediocre train of though. Its somehow hypocrisy to say that i shouldn't voice my complains about a show where you voice yours about my opinion. I bet you knew that i'm not changing my opinion, so why reply to me then? Wouldn't it be a waste of time like you said yourself? |
the_seventh_l said: They're not even trying anymore :| Did they ever? :) I guess you could always find more good stuff if you dig a bit, but i agree. Personally i would see more srsbsns instead of generic ecchishows. Not that i'm not going to watch this. I have nothing agains generic ecchishows, but they don't give as much in the end. Although i don't know how much we can influense as gaijin audience. Maybe what's licensed and translated, but not what's produced. |
| Sure it does sounds generic. But when I read the little write up on the Bakemonagaterie page I thought that sounds horrible, and it turned out interesting. So I won't rule it out yet. |
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Suzune-chan said: You are right, i shouldn't judge a book by its cover.Sure it does sounds generic. But when I read the little write up on the Bakemonagaterie page I thought that sounds horrible, and it turned out interesting. So I won't rule it out yet. P.S.: Its Bakemonogatari. Mix between Bakemono (Monster) and Monogatari(Story). I know its big, but its not very dificult to remeber it. |
Ryushi said: Suzune-chan said: You are right, i shouldn't judge a book by its cover.Sure it does sounds generic. But when I read the little write up on the Bakemonagaterie page I thought that sounds horrible, and it turned out interesting. So I won't rule it out yet. P.S.: Its Bakemonogatari. Mix between Bakemono (Monster) and Monogatari(Story). I know its big, but its not very dificult to remeber it. Sorry about the spelling I was trying to type it in a hurry. So I was spelling it out. My bad. |
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Ryushi said: SageShinigami said: It was worth every single second of it.No shit. A good 85-90% of anime doesn't happen in real life. The question is, what do you even get out of this? You think it'll suck. That's fine, in your head just write it off and keep it moving. With it being as generic as you say it is--honest question--is it really worth all the words you've typed to complain about it? If it didn't, i wouldn't be posting here. Now, for the unrealistic trait of anime thinggy you pointed out: I guess i expressed myself in the worst manner possible. Trying to make it less abstract would mean 2 things: 1. Stories , even those that don't resort to the fantasy genre, usualy show unrealistic plot devices which very doubtly would ever occur in real life, which in some cases ruins the series. 2. All romance shows end up basing themselves on harem as a main font for jokes and climaxes, which kind of ignores all other possibiliteis to be explored that hen in real life. I went off topic on that observation, and abistracted it too much. Now, please don't use silly arguments like "With it being as generic as you say it is--honest question--is it really worth all the words you've typed to complain about it?" That is just a mediocre train of though. Its somehow hypocrisy to say that i shouldn't voice my complains about a show where you voice yours about my opinion. I bet you knew that i'm not changing my opinion, so why reply to me then? Wouldn't it be a waste of time like you said yourself? I had a brief hope that, perhaps, you'd stop wasting your time on things you have no interest in. That's what I get for being optimistic. Its not hypocrisy at all, its just me going off and wondering why people like to bitch so much. |
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SageShinigami said: I'm wondering if you ever heard about freedom of expression. That aside, it is hypocrisyIts just me going off and wondering why people like to bitch so much. Let me be a bit more aggresive like you. Maybe its too dificult for you to understand but generic animes do consern me, as they represent the recent boom of mediocre anime that are getting aired. Now if you are going to reply, please use arguments, instead of that retarded remark of yours. Note: you could follow your policy for a change and don't give a damn about my opinion. I mean, just by replying at my posts you are contradicting yourself. |
| Gods, I wish I could make a really good comment about ecchi anime and what I expect from this show like people who post on message boards are SUPPOSED to do, but this Ryushi guy won't stop complaining and defending his obviously faulty opinion for me to even say anything meaningful, it's kinda like it'll be lost in an argument and no one will actually want to discuss. ._. And I really don't want to argue about ecchi. I mean really, is there anything to really argue about when you're talking about ECCHI? |
| I share the same opinion as ryushi, it's seems that most of the anime it's just the same... having more original content wuld be good for a change. PS - If ryushi is "defending" is opinion, i guess "someone" is attacking, right? ^^;; Opinions are opinions, it's not like insulting changes anything |
belial said: I share the same opinion as ryushi, it's seems that most of the anime it's just the same... having more original content would be good for a change. PS - If ryushi is "defending" is opinion, i guess "someone" is attacking, right? ^^;; Opinions are opinions, it's not like insulting changes anything I think the way you said your opinion was PERFECT. The regular way to state an opinion without being brutal, rude, or disrespectful of another opinions. There shouldn't have to be any insulting defending or attacking, and if anything he wasn't being attacked. He was rude, and he was being called on it. |
| I didn't remeber being rude to anyone at the start of it. I just got down to business after i felt somewhat offended. By no means i wished to offend others than those who retaliated at me using harsh remarks. I'd like you not to categorize my opinion as fauty. I mean, what the heck you meant by a fauty opinion in first place? What in my opinion made you consider it "fauty"? Its not a "no one will actually want to discuss" discussion. Far from that. DarcyD said: I think the way you said your opinion was PERFECT. The regular way to state an opinion without being brutal, rude, or disrespectful of another opinions. DarcyD said: but this Ryushi guy won't stop complaining and defending his obviously faulty opinion for me to even say anything meaningful, it's kinda like it'll be lost in an argument and no one will actually want to discuss. ._. I might be nip picking here, but you are clearly not following your recipt for a perfect way to share your opinion. |
DarcyD said: I'm confused, you say you didn't voice your opinion, yet 3 posts before you just had done that.I haven't shared an opinion yet. As I said before, it'd be lost in an argument (as it is now. xD) so technically you're proving what I've said to be true. :/ |
Ryushi said: DarcyD said: I'm confused, you say you didn't voice your opinion, yet 3 posts before you just had done that.I haven't shared an opinion yet. As I said before, it'd be lost in an argument (as it is now. xD) so technically you're proving what I've said to be true. :/ Uh, no. Here's my opinion so I don't confuse you any further. Ecchi will always be the same, no more and no less. You can't ever actually expect porn with a good PLOT can you? No. So complaining about ecchi being the same and having the potential but falling to be non-creative is ridiculous because that's what is it. I think you could've expressed yourself without making the anime look badly. And seriously, I think if you have such a problem with it, maybe you shouldn't be commenting here at all, and leave it to people who can discuss without being disrespectful. I love ecchi. I know what to expect from ecchi, just like I know moe, and I can't really be mad that the plot keeps being interrupted for mindless episodes of cute girls in maid outfits can I? |
DarcyD said: Ecchi will always be the same, no more and no less. You can't ever actually expect porn with a good PLOT can you? Kaizoku_Kazoku said: My thoughs exactly.Did you really just compare ecchi to porn? DarcyD said: I wonder where freedom of speech went to...I think if you have such a problem with it, maybe you shouldn't be commenting here at all I don't see any rules on the FAQ saying: Ryushi must not voice his opinion. But let me use your logic, I think if you have such a problem with my opinion, maybe you shouldn't bother commenting/lurking here at all After all, there is no rule that obligates you to read, and agree with me.(Wouldn't that be nice?) DarcyD said: I really don't remember trying to offend you.and leave it to people who can discuss without being disrespectful. Like i said before, i only was agressive towards those who went aggro at me first. DarcyD said: I really don't remeber forbiding you to watch it. Neither force producers to stop making those types of series.I love ecchi. I know what to expect from ecchi, just like I know moe, and I can't really be mad that the plot keeps being interrupted for mindless episodes of cute girls in maid outfits can I? Unless you like to follow my orders, tho i would actually never ask you that. Instead i'd ask u to go get me some pizza. Now will you kindly get me some pizza? |
| I love how people who know they don't like the genre purposely watch the show and then bitch about it. Seriously, there is no written rule that you must watch every ongoing anime just because it is new. The argument of companies choosing different, plot-emphasized anime if people stopped watching ecchi is valid, but obviously those who think otherwise are a larger crowd. Changing another person's genre of choice is extremely hard, impossible on the interwebz. People continue watching it because they like it, and then there are those who don't like it but watch it anyway, and then bitch about it of course, all while boosting the ratings. I myself like ecchi, given that it can make me laugh. The obviously same kind of situations do not bore me at all, and it doesn't matter if the plot is just some basic high school harem. And as on for the actual topic, yeah, the show is screaming generic. I don't care as long as I don't get bored and have a good laugh. |
| lol Ryushi. What excatly do you mean by 'good' anime. You dropped ef - a tale of memory (Drama), Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei (Comedy) and Death Note (strategical). If you ask me they are original... yet... Other than that. Freedom of speech is for everyone. Yet there are boundaries in it. As you know, once you created something like this expect flame rushing in. We all have different voices. Err... For the generic. I believe what 'generic' is the word you're looking for. It's 'genre'. You always see something usual inside an anime with the same genre as the other one. And falls 2009 actually have a lot of echii. But that's not the point. There are other anime beside that so choose elsewhere that fits you. Anyway, I posted this because it got my attention, no bad feelings but I don't mind a reply (or a flame. I asked for it). Anime lately aren't generic, it's just not your season. Oh right... Darker than Black and White album aren't ecchii... |
| This better have epically drawn doujins or else. OR ELSE. Haven't thought that far yet. |
Sakuma said: What about it?lol Ryushi. What excatly do you mean by 'good' anime. You dropped ef - a tale of memory (Drama), Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei (Comedy) and Death Note (strategical). If you ask me they are original... yet... I really didn't like SZS and ef. Just because a bunch of people likes it doesn't it mean that i need to like it as well. I didn't categorize them as generic in anyway. And i dropped Deathnote after the first acr, because i already knew what was going to happen on the second arc. Not to mention i really didn't want to see that series after that character died. Sakuma said: I didn't forbid anyone to say anything. Not that i remember.Other than that. Freedom of speech is for everyone. Sakuma said: Yes, yes. As you know, once you created something like this expect flame rushing in. We all have different voices. I must say i was expecting flames. Sakuma said: Yes, thats not the point, its the problem. What i'm complaining is about the overload of .... wait... Its not ecchi. Its about series that repeat over and over the same plot.... Mayber you got something wrong here...And falls 2009 actually have a lot of echii. But that's not the point. There are other anime beside that so choose elsewhere that fits you. Sakuma said: Please don't think i would go bashing ya just because of this post.Anyway, I posted this because it got my attention, no bad feelings but I don't mind a reply (or a flame. I asked for it). Anime lately aren't generic, it's just not your season. I just hope this ain't my season. Sakuma said: Its not about ecchi, and i already saw DtB, but thanks for the suggestion. I'll look for White Album. It looks promissing.Oh right... Darker than Black and White album aren't ecchii... |
| An ecchi isn't necessarily generic, one of Ryushi's points that all too many are missing. And people in this thread are seriously too butthurt. Whether you agree with Ryushi or not, many of the opposing members seem generally bad at argumentation, totally missing or ignoring his valid points and trying to ridicule his arguments without any motivation. Not to mention that he's not the only provoking one. So seriously guys, take it easy. I usually find it interesting when people argue against the series I love, giving me a chance to prove my certainty of love for it. |
| Heh. Wait? the post above me for me? If so let me tell you, I'm not after the post count so lacking motivation isn't a factor here. I just found it interesting and told my views about it. Furthermore, this isn't as badass as the forum I am from (I am truly grateful to that) Oh and uh.. it's not Echii, it's Harem (got confused from post #20: Echii isn't even a genre), I just asked about SZS and Death note to see your preference. And the reason why I said the next two quoted ones because your first post is really harsh. You will definitely invite people to debate about it, from newbies to experts. And yeah, you didn't comment about the genre thing. Earlier, I watched some falls 2009 anime. Still like the same as last season except filled with sequels. You know... Genre always have something similar from one anime to another - so it's already a fact that a genre is repetitive (Horror has scary characters, Action has battle scenes, Harem has Harem) but not to the fact the it's a complete copy. You can also say that on most of the films showing right now (Local and Foreign) Actually the only thing I recall as complete repetition is endless eight. It still haunts my nightmares. That's all for the Ryushi's complain. As for the topic, I don't see it being repetitive. Yes, the classic harem but the plot is different. It just what genre is |
SakumaOct 6, 2009 11:49 AM
| Well we can't do anything about it being generic it's because they have the money to animate it, as the other guy said it's not compulsory to watch all on going anime shows, depending on your kind of genre you pick out what suits you best, for me, even though it's the same harem, ecchi anime you'll see, Everything has it's uniqueness even if the anime is "scribbled" with generics still I believe that this anime will be quite different, And their producing more ecchi/harem type genres nowadays because people WATCH THEM, dislike or like PEOPLE WATCH THEM. Just like a certain topic in the newspaper no matter how negative the topic is, PEOPLE STILL READ THE ARTICLE, and even if they would blot negative or sometimes outrageous feedback, it's still proof that they are reading the article. Same with the anime, even if you blot it out with unappealing comments it's still concrete proof that it's STILL BEING WATCHED.... :D |
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Sakuma said: Wut... the heck?Wait? the post above me for me? If so let me tell you, I'm not after the post count so lacking motivation isn't a factor here. I just found it interesting and told my views about it. Furthermore, this isn't as badass as the forum I am from (I am truly grateful to that) I think you didn't understand the motivation thinggy, and what does another forum has to do with anything? Did you really read correctly? Were you high when you wrote this? Sakuma said: Heck! Its not about Harem, or Ecchi or whatever. Its about being gereric or not.Oh and uh.. it's not Echii, it's Harem (got confused from post #20: Echii isn't even a genre), Sakuma said: Well isn't that nice? Its good to have opinions from all users. But wait... wth? How is that related to anything?You will definitely invite people to debate about it, from newbies to experts. My "harsh remarks" directed towards none? Which most are just some people's imagination, when i barely "offended" those who bashed @ me? WTH. Sakuma said: I c... Wait What?! I know pretty well that animes from same genres have similar things, but thats not the point!Earlier, I watched some falls 2009 anime. Still like the same as last season except filled with sequels. You know... Genre always have something similar from one anime to another - so it's already a fact that a genre is repetitive (Horror has scary characters, Action has battle scenes, Harem has Harem) but not to the fact the it's a complete copy. You can also say that on most of the films showing right now (Local and Foreign) Actually the only thing I recall as complete repetition is endless eight. It still haunts my nightmares. I"m not talking about patterns, or something like that, i'm complaining about too many simiarities over anime. To the point of publishers just changing character's names and the anime's title. Hey, are you seriously paying attention to this topic? Maybe you are a bit confused. Sakuma said: Hey... You serious?ON topic*, I don't see it being repetitive. Yes, the classic harem but the plot is different. It just what genre is *I fixed it for you, cuz the way you said looked like you were saying that the Topic didn't look repetitive. Which it actually is. |
Ryushi said: Sakuma said: Wait? the post above me for me? If so let me tell you, I'm not after the post count so lacking motivation isn't a factor here. I just found it interesting and told my views about it. Furthermore, this isn't as badass as the forum I am from (I am truly grateful to that) Wut... the heck? I think you didn't understand the motivation thinggy, and what does another forum has to do with anything? Did you really read correctly? Were you high when you wrote this? I'm not talking to you at the first one. It's Kitcha. *sigh* But you're half right, it's 2 am when I wrote this. I dont quite understand what 'Generic' means to you. For what I understand on your posts, generic means repeatition. For what I know, Generic means it is a member of a certain kind. Isn't that what Genre means? What you call original means something outside the genre, or a higher version of it. Yes. I am confused. So try to explain it better and give me an example. I believe 'Sora no Otoshimono' is like 'Dears' but it isn't an exact copy of it. They have wings, they fall on heaven, but it's different (Yet I haven't watched dears so it's better to use other anime instead). Better give something that is exeptionally unique and not generic while you're at it. |
| ps: Anime is generic. |
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Sakuma said: No, generic doesn't mean genre.I dont quite understand what 'Generic' means to you. For what I understand on your posts, generic means repeatition. For what I know, Generic means it is a member of a certain kind. Isn't that what Genre means? What you call original means something outside the genre, or a higher version of it. Yes. I am confused. So try to explain it better and give me an example. I believe 'Sora no Otoshimono' is like 'Dears' but it isn't an exact copy of it. They have wings, they fall on heaven, but it's different (Yet I haven't watched dears so it's better to use other anime instead). Better give something that is exeptionally unique and not generic while you're at it. Generic anime/manga is. to me. an anime/manga that has too many similarities with other stories that where already published. Like "Asu no Yoichi". Where you have an guy living with 4 girls and no adults, on a single roof, all thanks to lame excuses. There are over a thousend series with that type of plot, which categorizes them as generic. And its not only the plot what makes a series generic. Repetitive characters are a factor to it as well. Being original doesn't mean the anime needs necessarily not to have any single aspect of a generic series. Because, after all, its been getting more and more harder to make something completely original after so much things publicated, i give them that. Something original in shonen romance stories, imo, would be a serie that goes further than that simple shonenistic (I just invented this term now) thinggy people dare call romance. Something original would require an main male lead that wouldn't be indecisive. Wouldn't wimp out. Would lose when he couldn't win.* (Sounds weird, i know. But i don't how to write other way. Some people will understand the meaning of that.) A story that wouldn't end with no ending at all, or simply a confession. A story with an unexpected and awesome ending. (Ichigo 100% Manga) And finally, a story that doesn't have stupid plot twists. The closest lead to this description was Okazaki from Clannad, who i like pretty much, but fails in some aspects. And the closest story to that description would be After Story. Too bad, that like its lead, it still fails in some aspects. I might be sounding a tad unfair here, since i'm only searching for something to contempt myself with it, but i'm also looking for other things that won't sound/look repetive. Since i never saw sora no otoshimono i can't really say it is just like dears, but since they have pretty common features like annoying childhoold friend karate chopping for stupid reaons, stupid ecchi comic relief, busty clueless girls prone to tripping and giving pantyshots in any possible, and impossible ways, stupid plot, generic main lead, n' stuff, i can safely guess it looks pretty generic. Now for the "something that is exeptionally unique and not generic", well you got me. There isn't so far something exeptionally unique, other than the first animes out there, and Higashi No Eden. Hehehee But for original animes, well that i consider somewhat original, i have: Eve no Jikan, Spice N' Wolf, Ah My Goddess (First part), King of Bandits Jing in Seventh Heaven, Spirited Away, HanTsuki, Futakoi Alternative, Mahoraba (Manga only), Mx0 (Manga). zeroj said: No. Its not.ps: Anime is generic. I find that comment pretty unexpected from someone who has such anime list. |
| Heh. Ah well. I just hope this anime will be interesting as it goes. |
Ryushi said: DarcyD said: Ecchi will always be the same, no more and no less. You can't ever actually expect porn with a good PLOT can you? Kaizoku_Kazoku said: My thoughs exactly.Did you really just compare ecchi to porn? DarcyD said: I wonder where freedom of speech went to...I think if you have such a problem with it, maybe you shouldn't be commenting here at all I don't see any rules on the FAQ saying: Ryushi must not voice his opinion. But let me use your logic, I think if you have such a problem with my opinion, maybe you shouldn't bother commenting/lurking here at all After all, there is no rule that obligates you to read, and agree with me.(Wouldn't that be nice?) DarcyD said: I really don't remember trying to offend you.and leave it to people who can discuss without being disrespectful. Like i said before, i only was agressive towards those who went aggro at me first. DarcyD said: I really don't remeber forbiding you to watch it. Neither force producers to stop making those types of series.I love ecchi. I know what to expect from ecchi, just like I know moe, and I can't really be mad that the plot keeps being interrupted for mindless episodes of cute girls in maid outfits can I? Unless you like to follow my orders, tho i would actually never ask you that. Instead i'd ask u to go get me some pizza. Now will you kindly get me some pizza? You've missed the point entirely. What's your IQ? |
| Most deffinitly higher than yours. Maybe in the mist of your confusion you though that you made any sense... Oh well, i wonder why i even try to talk with you. |
Ryushi said: Most deffinitly higher than yours. Maybe in the mist of your confusion you though that you made any sense... Oh well, i wonder why i even try to talk with you. Because, as you 'claim' you have your freedom of speech, and although I doubt your IQ is higher than mine, I'm pretty sure I didn't start this post to talk about IQs, believe it or not. ._. But like I said, the point was bound to get lost in all your hatred anyway. xD |
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radiantfire said: Let's stop this guys, lol. No one wants to read bickering from two members. Well said ^_^ And...i like the show,i dont realy mind if it's generic :P |
 "Only the dead have seen the end of war". ~Plato~ |
| I don't care if it's generic, as long as it's good. |
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| @Ryushi Isn't Bleach's Bount arc and the Arrancar arc both GENERIC as well? They both include guys discovering new powers, heaps of fighting, powerful villians and yet the good guys can still take on them. People dont really hate it so much, do they? Asu no Yoichi, Princess Lover and Sora no Otoshimono can be treated like Bleach's different arcs as well, but with a different title and characters. Besides, ecchi and harem anime are MOSTLY about making men drool and fantasize; to be honest, they don't really care about a plot. And when I see an ecchi scene I don't usually go "Hey, I 've seen that before." They can't really just stick the main guy with a tsundere chick and end the series. That would imply "Guys like tsundere girls better." More like being personality-ist (new word there) Besides a lot of people wouldn't like "his" choice. That's why Clannad had to include Tomoyo and Kyou chapters. =/ Anyway Sora no Otoshimono has loads of epic absurd scenes, I've never seen before. Srsly. |
| [ignores maybe flamewar or whatever instead] Its not generic. But if it is, then I like this kind of generic thing :D |
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| If it didn't sell, they wouldn't make it. If they thought no one would watch it, It never would have made it to production. Obviously, a certain protion of the audience is watching this show and enjoying it. I like ecchi comedies. Yes, they are mostly worthy of a "Generic" label, but if they are done well, there will be sparks of creativity from time to time. Panties flying in flock formation - That was a diffinite "Spark" darou? |
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