| It will never surpass Higurashi if you keep expecting it to be a suspenseful horror because that's not what it is. Umineko is more of a mystery/detective story. |
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| I think Higurashi is better. Umineko didn't make me shiver when I watched it. MarthX said: Umineko is more of a mystery/detective story. Yes, not so much a horror like Higurashi. Also in Umineko less characters are scary, it's pretty much only Maria-chan |
| There is nothing to compare actually. The two series are totally different to start with in the first place. |
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| I'd say it's something like this... Higurashi (not Kai) Mystery: 3 Comedy: 2 Action: 2 Drama: 3 Horror: 4 Umineko Mystery: 5 Comedy: 1 Action: 4 Drama: 2 Horror: 2 |
LunarEmeraldAug 6, 2009 10:45 AM
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| As for right now (it may change latter) Anime Higurashi > Anime Umineko Sound novel Umineko > Sound novel Higurashi. @Reina-chama: No, Umineko and Higurashi are made from the same team and have some strong link between them, the anime did a poor job at adapting Umineko (Well not adapting it correctly don't mean it is bad, I still like it =/) but it have less impact and some things has been omited. Anyway I wouldn't expect an anime watcher to see some good reason as to why they are linked yet but they do are. |
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maxime1007 said: As for right now (it may change latter) Anime Higurashi > Anime Umineko Sound novel Umineko > Sound novel Higurashi. @Reina-chama: No, Umineko and Higurashi are made from the same team and have some strong link between them, the anime did a poor job at adapting Umineko (Well not adapting it correctly don't mean it is bad, I still like it =/) but it have less impact and some things has been omited. Anyway I wouldn't expect an anime watcher to see some good reason as to why they are linked yet but they do are. In Higurashi's case the first arc was probably the best one until Meakashi. Umineko should be differently with each arc getting progressively better. And I wouldn't say they have a strong link. Aside from Bern and |
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| They are completely different stories, just done by the same people. STOP COMPARING THEM. |
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MarthX said: Aside from Bern and They mostly were the link I was talking about XD. @Hot: You do not even know what you are talking about, play the novel or stfu. Anime watcher who think they know everything without even playing the source make me sick. |
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| Higurashi is more on horror Umineko is more on the logic and detective The first arc only serves as a prologue for Umineko, the show has only begun with the second arc. Trust me, you will get mindf**ked on a regular basis, more than the horrors of Higurashi |
| People expecting Umineko to be like Higurashi will find it harder accept some of the later stuff that happens in Umineko. At least, that's how I felt when I was reading Ep2 of the VN. maxime1007 said: @Hot: You do not even know what you are talking about, play the novel or stfu. Anime watcher who think they know everything without even playing the source make me sick. That sounds extremely elitist and unnecessary. And people wonder why some of the anime-fans complain about the VN fans. >_> |
z-pakAug 6, 2009 11:05 AM
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| Though similar in some aspects, these two shows are still different. (Yeah I know, I'm a genius.) It's mostly what others have said, Umineko looks like it's more of a mystery show and Higurashi psychological horror. That being said, for the moment I still prefer Higurashi cause it made a better impression on me than Umineko's first arc, mostly because it's the first anime that actually scared the shit out of me sometimes while I find it hard to get into Umineko. |
BakaOnna said: maxime1007 said: @Hot: You do not even know what you are talking about, play the novel or stfu. Anime watcher who think they know everything without even playing the source make me sick. That sounds extremely elitist and unnecessary. And people wonder why some of the anime-fans complain about the VN fans. >_> I'm not against people having their opinion but when they state it as a fact I will react, even more when what they said was already proved to be wrong, be it about VN or not. Now I would not say that i'm a VN fan since the only VN I ever played was Umineko and that I did not even finished it yet (I am currently playing now). |
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maxime1007 said: MarthX said: Aside from Bern and They mostly were the link I was talking about XD. @Hot: You do not even know what you are talking about, play the novel or stfu. Anime watcher who think they know everything without even playing the source make me sick. Maybe YOU need to play the novel. The only link you mention isn't "strong" like you say. Hell. using your logic the touhou link with umineko is stronger. |
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| This is what it should be... Nipah vs. Uu~ |
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| The only real similarity is Okonogi. OH SNAP SPOILERS. |
| Higurashi Anime > Umineko Anime Umineko Sound Novel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Higurashi Sound Novel /thread. |
| I think compare two series now is too soon, because Onikakushi is one of the best arcs of Higurashi while "Legend" is the worst arc of Umineko (not that it's bad, just it's nearly nothing if compared to the later arcs) |
| Higurashi shits all over Umineko (at least as far as adaptations go), sorry. |
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Ice_T said: Higurashi shits all over Umineko (at least as far as adaptations go), sorry. And have you played the Higurashi VN to know how much of a better adaption it is compared to Umineko? |
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Drengot said: Hotstrawberry said: They are completely different stories, just done by the same people. STOP COMPARING THEM. Exactly the reason why people compare them. Because its done by the same people, the same studio, the same director! - I have high expectations, and I bet a lot of people do. That's why its so popular, no? But I guess its bad adaptation. The VN has a really unique style of telling the story, its just difficult to adapt it to anime. That's why I'm off to VN. The anime hasn't reached the reason why the series is so popular. So far the anime is a pretty good adapation. If my predictions are correct then episode 8 should be the one where you see why people like Umineko so much. And even though they were both written by Ryukishi07, adapted by DEEN and directed by Chiaki, Umineko and Higurashi are different. As explained many times already, Umineko is more about mystery than anything. Not spooky mystery either, detective mysteries. Detective Conan + Phoenix Wright. |
LunarEmeraldAug 6, 2009 8:19 PM
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Ice_T said: And have you finished making my sandwich yet? Guess I'll take that as a no. |
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Drengot said: Hotstrawberry said: But I guess its bad adaptation. The VN has a really unique style of telling the story, its just difficult to adapt it to anime. That's why I'm off to VN. No. Even if adapted faithfully, Umineko's first arc is not a match with Higurashi's Onikakushi. Later arcs are much better, especially the third arc. |
Hotstrawberry said: They are completely different stories That doesn't mean you can't compare them. |
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| Text size for each game Onikakushi: 500KB (4) Watanagashi: 690KB (4) Tatarigoroshi: 700KB (5) Himatsubushi: 320KB (2) Meakashi: 670KB (6) Tsumihoroboshi: 730KB (5) Minagoroshi: 860KB (8) Matsuribayashi: 1130KB (11) Legend of the golden witch: 670KB (5) Turn of the golden witch: 640KB (?) Let's assume that the ideal pace count is 100KB per episode. Going by that calculation then the pace ranking is... 1. Matsuribayashi 2. Minagoroshi 3. Meakashi 4. Onikakushi 5. Himatsubushi 6. Legend of the golden witch 7. Tatarigoroshi 8. Tsumihoroboshi 9. Watanagashi Turn of the golden witch will probably be 6 episodes long. That would put it below Matsuribayashi and above Minagoroshi |
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MarthX said: Text size for each game Onikakushi: 500KB (4) Watanagashi: 690KB (4) Tatarigoroshi: 700KB (5) Himatsubushi: 320KB (2) Meakashi: 670KB (6) Tsumihoroboshi: 730KB (5) Minagoroshi: 860KB (8) Matsuribayashi: 1130KB (11) Legend of the golden witch: 670KB (5) Turn of the golden witch: 640KB (?) Let's assume that the ideal pace count is 100KB per episode. Going by that calculation then the pace ranking is... 1. Matsuribayashi 2. Minagoroshi 3. Meakashi 4. Onikakushi 5. Himatsubushi 6. Legend of the golden witch 7. Tatarigoroshi 8. Tsumihoroboshi 9. Watanagashi Turn of the golden witch will probably be 6 episodes long. That would put it below Matsuribayashi and above Minagoroshi Do you have the file sizes of the other 2 Umineko arcs? Or how their sizes compares to Minagoroshi-hen and Matsuribayashi-hen? |
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BakaOnna said: MarthX said: Text size for each game Onikakushi: 500KB (4) Watanagashi: 690KB (4) Tatarigoroshi: 700KB (5) Himatsubushi: 320KB (2) Meakashi: 670KB (6) Tsumihoroboshi: 730KB (5) Minagoroshi: 860KB (8) Matsuribayashi: 1130KB (11) Legend of the golden witch: 670KB (5) Turn of the golden witch: 640KB (?) Let's assume that the ideal pace count is 100KB per episode. Going by that calculation then the pace ranking is... 1. Matsuribayashi 2. Minagoroshi 3. Meakashi 4. Onikakushi 5. Himatsubushi 6. Legend of the golden witch 7. Tatarigoroshi 8. Tsumihoroboshi 9. Watanagashi Turn of the golden witch will probably be 6 episodes long. That would put it below Matsuribayashi and above Minagoroshi Do you have the file sizes of the other 2 Umineko arcs? Or how their sizes compares to Minagoroshi-hen and Matsuribayashi-hen? Banquet of the golden witch: 710KB Alliance of the golden witch: 870KB |
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MarthX said: BakaOnna said: MarthX said: Text size for each game Onikakushi: 500KB (4) Watanagashi: 690KB (4) Tatarigoroshi: 700KB (5) Himatsubushi: 320KB (2) Meakashi: 670KB (6) Tsumihoroboshi: 730KB (5) Minagoroshi: 860KB (8) Matsuribayashi: 1130KB (11) Legend of the golden witch: 670KB (5) Turn of the golden witch: 640KB (?) Let's assume that the ideal pace count is 100KB per episode. Going by that calculation then the pace ranking is... 1. Matsuribayashi 2. Minagoroshi 3. Meakashi 4. Onikakushi 5. Himatsubushi 6. Legend of the golden witch 7. Tatarigoroshi 8. Tsumihoroboshi 9. Watanagashi Turn of the golden witch will probably be 6 episodes long. That would put it below Matsuribayashi and above Minagoroshi Do you have the file sizes of the other 2 Umineko arcs? Or how their sizes compares to Minagoroshi-hen and Matsuribayashi-hen? Banquet of the golden witch: 710KB Alliance of the golden witch: 870KB Looks like we're gonna get 5, 6, 7, 8 for the arcs. Though I suspected that already. |
| I refuse to compare them, because I consider them to be part of the same series. |
| This poll should be made again once Turn is complete. |
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MarthX said: This poll should be made again once Umineko is complete. Fixed. |
| I think Turn alone will greatly change what people think of it. |
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MarthX said: I think Turn alone will greatly change what people think of it. Yeah, but it's not really a fair comparison until Umineko is completely finished. What if the answer arcs are shit? |
| Higurashi did have a mystery but it wasn't the focus of the series. The majority of the arcs were about one of the club members going crazy. Higurashi focused on being suspenseful with the deaths while Umineko downplays the deaths for the mystery. Battler doesn't freak out and get paranoid when people die. Instead he gets angry and wants to find whomever's responsible so he can kick their ass. You also need to stop and remember what exactly Higurashi had shown 5 episodes in. Your knowledge by then would be... Rena and Mion are freaking crazy. Haven't seen much of Satoko and Rika. Token lolis that aren't important at all. Shion seems nice. Hopefully she's not crazy like Mion. It was obvious that Mion and Rena killed Tomitake and Takano. Keiichi clawing his throat out was because of the injection they gave him. The people in the van were probably working for them. Not much of a mystery. Keiichi is pathetic to be intimidated and overpowered by 2 girls. Are the cat eyes supposed to be creepy? It just looks weird. -- As you can see, the knowledge of the series is very limited and you barely know the characters. That's exactly how it is with Umineko now. |
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| I actually think the poll should be made after Umineko is over. I was actually really skeptical towards the story throughout Turn because of the you-know-what scenes. It wasn't until Banquet that I "adjusted" away from the Higurashi way of thinking. I think the you-know-what scenes may create some... dissension with the series, especially with how anti-mystery it is at the moment. At least until the scenes are explained. |
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| Higurashi, I think there is no other serial or movie which is as creepy as Higurashi, not even Shining or Evil Dead or whatever. In comparision to Umineko I like the setting more. Further, I think it's somekind of boring if the story starts with supernatural elements shown quite clearly (the witch). In Higurashi just everybody talks about Oyashiro-sama, but he is never been shown...creepy!^^ |
maxime1007 said: @Hot: You do not even know what you are talking about, play the novel or stfu. Anime watcher who think they know everything without even playing the source make me sick. lol this whole quote smells of elitism and faggotry, sorry not everyone here plays your fucking weeaboo games. |
| I'm amazed that the poll stays at a tie. |
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MarthX said: i've destroyed the equilibriumI'm amazed that the poll stays at a tie. |
| No one can destroy the equilibrium 37/37. This has to be some kind of joke, right? I still think Umineko is better because of the adaptation, in Higurashi they cut really important plot elements like Tomitake and his shirt in Onikakushi, if they had kept them i would have been better. BTW that was not a spoiler since the OH so great anime down't even mention it. And when you read the HIgurashi novels, they are far more creepy and sadistic even not showing the images |
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