Forum SettingsEpisode Information
Forums
New
Apr 21, 8:10 AM
#1
Offline
Aug 2019
4
I know it's early to say for the first 2 episode but given how popular this manga is isn't the animation incredibly lacking?
Apr 21, 8:37 AM
#2
Offline
Dec 2022
627
yeahhhhh the anime is complete garbage.
Apr 21, 9:07 AM
#3
Offline
Aug 2022
99
IDK why nowadays everyone complains about the quality of animation, I means do you guys want to let some people work 15hrs a day and not get their desired payment by their respective companies even though they are trying to give their best efforts in making some scribble of texts into a meaningful animation, background, etc. A animation needs a lot of effort than anything, even there is an anime out there about animators struggles, can't we even appreciate the work and hardships they put through?
They also have family, a life just like us, but this gen z and gen alphas are like babbling about other's work and efforts, and out there judging them on a critical yet peculiar basis of 'bad animation' even though as a CSE student I find this show's animation is better than most the 7 rated animes.
Just watch the anime, understand it's meaning( if anything it's trying to tell us) and enjoy it.
Why complaint? Why criticize someone's hardwork?
Put yourself in their shoes and think how you would have felt after seeing this kind of comments.
That's why most of the animes don't even get a season 2, because most producers are afraid of they can meet up our thirsty expectations.
Apr 21, 9:14 AM
#4
Offline
Jun 2021
71
YOUR MOM IS INCREDIBLY LACKING! (Yes I know what you’re going to say to this no need to mention maturity. How bout you grow down and then I’ll consider growing up)
Apr 21, 9:25 AM
#5

Online
Jan 2017
5734
Antisocial-Weeb said:
Why complaint? Why criticize someone's hardwork?


Mhh... because it's bad ? It's not because it's hard to do good job that it excuse it being done wrong, especially as it's a professional product they are selling.
The Animation is not the worst, tho. In my opinion, the character designs and numerous scenes cuts are more concerning.
"Genius lives only one storey above madness."
– Arthur Schopenhauer.

"Stupidity is a talent for misconception."
– Edgar Allan Poe.

"I'm tired... and hungry."
– Alexioos95.
Apr 21, 9:38 AM
#6
Offline
May 2021
23
Personally I didn't find anything lacking in the animation, what was that you didn't like, there was only 1 monster fight till now and a boss fight before that, so....
Apr 21, 9:46 AM
#7
Offline
May 2021
2150
AniPeo said:
I know it's early to say for the first 2 episode but given how popular this manga is isn't the animation incredibly lacking?

Ya action scenes are really stiff and short. They are lacking budget for it
Apr 21, 9:47 AM
#8
Offline
Nov 2018
894
I feel like this complaint just gets copied and pasted to almost on every anime thread. There's at least one person who doesn't like the animation on every anime and feels the need to share it.
Apr 21, 10:24 AM
#9
Offline
Aug 2022
99
Alexioos95 said:
Antisocial-Weeb said:
Why complaint? Why criticize someone's hardwork?


Mhh... because it's bad ? It's not because it's hard to do good job that it excuse it being done wrong, especially as it's a professional product they are selling.
The Animation is not the worst, tho. In my opinion, the character designs and numerous scenes cuts are more concerning.

That's just half assessed judgement bro, yes I also admit that the animation is not top tier like WB or Marvel Studios but still, animating is a hard process, you can't copy exact physics into a 2D animation like some engines out there.
Working with mouse , keyboard, touchpad, drawing pads, simulator deck etc. is hard for a human.
In fact I'm happy that a studio is not exploiting their workers just for better animation.
Apr 21, 10:40 AM
Offline
Dec 2022
706
it just 2 episodes, i didn't want to say anything, but after this idiotic complaints i can't stop myself.
i think for the copy paste story animes like this with little changes. it's the best animation it can get. I've seen 2 eps and, their is nothing so over the top, any thing so special, every thing is pretty average, and just like the story the animation too. why crying over it. in every post about every anime.

any way most people watch in 480p or 720p to notice the difference. they are only few people who watch it with the highest quality. in that most people have no complaints about it, expect the very very few like you ppl. and even if the animation ware to be a bit better, that wouldn't change any of my opinion about the story of the anime.

and the world has more thing to deal with, than some freaky overreacting fan, for little details.
Yeshaiah2015yeshApr 21, 10:53 AM
Apr 21, 1:51 PM
Offline
Aug 2018
38
Wait so why are we harping on people with complaints? I don't care if the animation is bad and it is, but if it's bad, I'd like that effort to go somewhere else in the show. Unfortunately, I can't find that effort anywhere. Since when are people not allowed to voice their questions, concerns, or complaints? There are some shows that are delayed for months or years, just give your team more time to not put out something so lackluster. Sounds like some of us are fine with every show being awful or okay at best.
Yeshaiah2015yesh said:
and the world has more thing to deal with, than some freaky overreacting fan, for little details.

I really didn't realize that it was on anime/animators to deal with the problems in the world. Thanks for letting us know. I really thought other people had jobs involving those problems and that animators were just putting out anime and living their lives. Maybe that's why change is so slow? Our governments are waiting on the animators to start fixing things for them. I thought the world had better things to do than worry about these little details? How do you have time to complain about someone else complaining on a single thread, on a single show, on a single website? Sounds like you might be overreacting...
Apr 22, 7:54 AM
Offline
Jan 2015
49
Previously, I judged the merits of an anime on a mix of production value, character and writing. But nowadays, I consider the first two a luxury.

If an anime can have very solid writing, I would view it much higher than anything I previously watched that excelled on all other fronts besides the story. It is the core part of the enjoyment of anime.

If animation is the only good part, watch highlight clips. If it is the music, find the OST. If the narrative is interesting? Then you can say it is time to watch the show.
Apr 22, 11:29 AM
Offline
Aug 2018
38
Reply to Notshane
Previously, I judged the merits of an anime on a mix of production value, character and writing. But nowadays, I consider the first two a luxury.

If an anime can have very solid writing, I would view it much higher than anything I previously watched that excelled on all other fronts besides the story. It is the core part of the enjoyment of anime.

If animation is the only good part, watch highlight clips. If it is the music, find the OST. If the narrative is interesting? Then you can say it is time to watch the show.
@Notshane I'm sure you enjoy shows where all three are great the most. I sure am glad my car runs, but I'd be much happier in a Maserati. And that's beside the point. Have you read the source material for this anime? I haven't read it all, but I've read a decent amount and can say that I don't like much with this one. Never thought the story was all that deep or that the characters were all that great, but they don't even live up to that.
Apr 29, 7:54 AM
Offline
Jan 2015
49
MastaJiggyWiggy said:
@Notshane I'm sure you enjoy shows where all three are great the most. I sure am glad my car runs, but I'd be much happier in a Maserati. And that's beside the point. Have you read the source material for this anime? I haven't read it all, but I've read a decent amount and can say that I don't like much with this one. Never thought the story was all that deep or that the characters were all that great, but they don't even live up to that.

Hence why I said they're luxuries. I certainly would enjoy seeing more of them. But every person has a different take on what define the necessities of a product.
Apr 30, 1:16 AM
Offline
Aug 2018
38
Reply to Notshane
MastaJiggyWiggy said:
@Notshane I'm sure you enjoy shows where all three are great the most. I sure am glad my car runs, but I'd be much happier in a Maserati. And that's beside the point. Have you read the source material for this anime? I haven't read it all, but I've read a decent amount and can say that I don't like much with this one. Never thought the story was all that deep or that the characters were all that great, but they don't even live up to that.

Hence why I said they're luxuries. I certainly would enjoy seeing more of them. But every person has a different take on what define the necessities of a product.
Notshane said:
Hence why I said they're luxuries. I certainly would enjoy seeing more of them. But every person has a different take on what define the necessities of a product.

True. Everyone will have a different opinion on what the necessities of any product are, I agree completely. But if your product is inferior to another, no one will buy it. This show is being put out at minimal standards compared to anything else, which is fine, but people are allowed to complain about a poor product and not buy/consume that product. That's how/why some companies improve their products. The anime itself is a luxury that many LNs/manga won't get, so I don't understand why you'd want a bunch of low effort products.
May 6, 2:58 AM

Offline
May 2007
888
I saw clips of the show on YT, it looks janky as hell and just looks cheap.
May 13, 7:59 AM

Offline
Dec 2017
215
Reply to Antisocial-Weeb
IDK why nowadays everyone complains about the quality of animation, I means do you guys want to let some people work 15hrs a day and not get their desired payment by their respective companies even though they are trying to give their best efforts in making some scribble of texts into a meaningful animation, background, etc. A animation needs a lot of effort than anything, even there is an anime out there about animators struggles, can't we even appreciate the work and hardships they put through?
They also have family, a life just like us, but this gen z and gen alphas are like babbling about other's work and efforts, and out there judging them on a critical yet peculiar basis of 'bad animation' even though as a CSE student I find this show's animation is better than most the 7 rated animes.
Just watch the anime, understand it's meaning( if anything it's trying to tell us) and enjoy it.
Why complaint? Why criticize someone's hardwork?
Put yourself in their shoes and think how you would have felt after seeing this kind of comments.
That's why most of the animes don't even get a season 2, because most producers are afraid of they can meet up our thirsty expectations.
Antisocial-Weeb said:
Put yourself in their shoes and think how you would have felt after seeing this kind of comments.

I would be fine if I would get critisized for my bad work. And this work IS bad. It clearly looks like all the corners were cut to make animation cheaper, so more profit can be had. Don't jump to defend corporations who want your money, demand a good product that is worthy of your time.
May 26, 3:14 AM

Offline
Dec 2018
3428
This is so bad I demand to know how this gets greenlit
May 31, 4:37 AM
Offline
Jan 2018
4753
Whisper me a long song is the same. There’s are thread talking about how bad the production is from the same studio how it was doomed from the start and kept on getting worse and worse,
Mattinator95May 31, 4:40 AM
May 31, 4:39 AM
Offline
Jan 2018
4753
Reply to slavemaster_1991
Antisocial-Weeb said:
Put yourself in their shoes and think how you would have felt after seeing this kind of comments.

I would be fine if I would get critisized for my bad work. And this work IS bad. It clearly looks like all the corners were cut to make animation cheaper, so more profit can be had. Don't jump to defend corporations who want your money, demand a good product that is worthy of your time.
@slavemaster_1991 in order to do that we would need to demand workers who work on theses anime’s actually get the chance to actually do.
Jun 1, 11:31 AM
Offline
Jun 2013
192
ppl on MAL r so much different from ppl on reddit. who cares about the animation that much. i like it but the main idea is that even when you stop playing a game, the NPSs of that game actually keep living on as if they were real. and we were like a unique rare type of species that had special powers. i just really like how the story is based on him reconnecting with his support characters and actually having real conversations instead of predetermined dialogue. animation is 6/10 imo
Jun 5, 7:10 PM
Offline
Nov 2023
45
Fucking bastards complaining sbout animation. Plz get a job in the animarion industry to understand better. Some blamed an anime for getting delayed just because of this anime's so called bsd quality. One also said the industry is collapsing for nothing.
MattenanJun 5, 7:14 PM
Jun 8, 3:16 PM
Offline
Jan 2009
213
I saw news that the entire animation team at Yokohama Animation Lab quit a few episodes back. It explains a lot.
Jun 8, 3:57 PM
Offline
Nov 2011
2
Reply to amf85
I saw news that the entire animation team at Yokohama Animation Lab quit a few episodes back. It explains a lot.
@amf85 well, now I’m not sure if I should continue watching this after the shocking animation quality in ep 8.
Jun 8, 5:34 PM
fanservice<3

Offline
Mar 2012
12179
Reply to Antisocial-Weeb
IDK why nowadays everyone complains about the quality of animation, I means do you guys want to let some people work 15hrs a day and not get their desired payment by their respective companies even though they are trying to give their best efforts in making some scribble of texts into a meaningful animation, background, etc. A animation needs a lot of effort than anything, even there is an anime out there about animators struggles, can't we even appreciate the work and hardships they put through?
They also have family, a life just like us, but this gen z and gen alphas are like babbling about other's work and efforts, and out there judging them on a critical yet peculiar basis of 'bad animation' even though as a CSE student I find this show's animation is better than most the 7 rated animes.
Just watch the anime, understand it's meaning( if anything it's trying to tell us) and enjoy it.
Why complaint? Why criticize someone's hardwork?
Put yourself in their shoes and think how you would have felt after seeing this kind of comments.
That's why most of the animes don't even get a season 2, because most producers are afraid of they can meet up our thirsty expectations.
Antisocial-Weeb said:
IDK why nowadays everyone complains about the quality of animation, I means do you guys want to let some people work 15hrs a day and not get their desired payment by their respective companies even though they are trying to give their best efforts in making some scribble of texts into a meaningful animation, background, etc. A animation needs a lot of effort than anything, even there is an anime out there about animators struggles, can't we even appreciate the work and hardships they put through?



Mattenan said:
Fucking bastards complaining sbout animation. Plz get a job in the animarion industry to understand better. Some blamed an anime for getting delayed just because of this anime's so called bsd quality. One also said the industry is collapsing for nothing.


or the industry could just MAKE LESS ANIME a season and take longer to make them, therefore pontially lowering the ours people need to work weekly

i mean, its kinda the industry's fault for trying to pump out 500 anime a year and its whoevers fault for agreeing to work in those conditions for such shitty pay

"but theyre working really hard"

yes, i know, ofc they are, but i can't really see that as an excuse when no one is forcing them to kill themselves over drawings

if you TRULY love to draw you'd make sure to keep yourself healthy so you can always do your best at it

and lastly, if people don't like something, the reality is, it doesn't matter how hard you worked on it, it doesn't mean people are going to support it or think its good and naturally people like to look at things that are visually appealing, which this just isn't


i think most people would agree its better to have less anime that look as good as possible by healthy unstressed animators than a bunch of mid-decent looking shows that are rushed by overstressed overworked people many of which become paralyzed, quit or even die
EcchiGodMamsterJun 8, 5:41 PM
Jun 8, 9:50 PM
Offline
Nov 2023
45
Reply to amf85
I saw news that the entire animation team at Yokohama Animation Lab quit a few episodes back. It explains a lot.
@amf85 any proof of this or youre making shit up
Jun 8, 9:52 PM
Offline
Nov 2023
45
Reply to EcchiGodMamster
Antisocial-Weeb said:
IDK why nowadays everyone complains about the quality of animation, I means do you guys want to let some people work 15hrs a day and not get their desired payment by their respective companies even though they are trying to give their best efforts in making some scribble of texts into a meaningful animation, background, etc. A animation needs a lot of effort than anything, even there is an anime out there about animators struggles, can't we even appreciate the work and hardships they put through?



Mattenan said:
Fucking bastards complaining sbout animation. Plz get a job in the animarion industry to understand better. Some blamed an anime for getting delayed just because of this anime's so called bsd quality. One also said the industry is collapsing for nothing.


or the industry could just MAKE LESS ANIME a season and take longer to make them, therefore pontially lowering the ours people need to work weekly

i mean, its kinda the industry's fault for trying to pump out 500 anime a year and its whoevers fault for agreeing to work in those conditions for such shitty pay

"but theyre working really hard"

yes, i know, ofc they are, but i can't really see that as an excuse when no one is forcing them to kill themselves over drawings

if you TRULY love to draw you'd make sure to keep yourself healthy so you can always do your best at it

and lastly, if people don't like something, the reality is, it doesn't matter how hard you worked on it, it doesn't mean people are going to support it or think its good and naturally people like to look at things that are visually appealing, which this just isn't


i think most people would agree its better to have less anime that look as good as possible by healthy unstressed animators than a bunch of mid-decent looking shows that are rushed by overstressed overworked people many of which become paralyzed, quit or even die
@EcchiGodMamster I wouldn't say a lot are rushed because of too many shows but dealing with these kind of people that talk their shit makes me stressed as this community needs to shut up and stop complaining about animation. You can't be expecting Madhouse or Ufotable tier animation all the time.
MattenanJun 8, 9:59 PM
Jun 8, 10:11 PM
fanservice<3

Offline
Mar 2012
12179
Reply to Mattenan
@EcchiGodMamster I wouldn't say a lot are rushed because of too many shows but dealing with these kind of people that talk their shit makes me stressed as this community needs to shut up and stop complaining about animation. You can't be expecting Madhouse or Ufotable tier animation all the time.
Mattenan said:
@EcchiGodMamster I wouldn't say a lot are rushed because of too many shows but dealing with these kind of people that talk their shit makes me stressed as this community needs to shut up and stop complaining about animation. You can't be expecting Madhouse or Ufotable tier animation all the time.


no one is saying it has to look as good as those studios typcially make, but this animes visuals look pretty shitty and no one is obligated to like it regardless of the reason

its all the industries fault, not only do they overwork people, but they don't really give new animators proper training, much of the time they just outsource to people who aren't as well trained

so shows that look really good tend to be because they have the best veteran animators working on them and not because theres as much wide talent as there should be
Jun 8, 10:16 PM
Offline
Nov 2023
45
Reply to erispedia
@amf85 well, now I’m not sure if I should continue watching this after the shocking animation quality in ep 8.
@erispedia How does that have to do with anything? What was shocking about it? Did they pull an ex arm?
Jun 8, 10:32 PM
Offline
Jan 2009
213
Reply to Mattenan
@amf85 any proof of this or youre making shit up
@Mattenan

Read away. Believe or don't, I don't particularly care.

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=%22yokohama+animation%22+outsourcing+team

More topics from this board

Poll: » The New Gate Episode 9 Discussion

Stark700 - Jun 8

30 by Vicmiceli »»
8 hours ago

Poll: » The New Gate Episode 8 Discussion

Stark700 - Jun 1

40 by Sen16 »»
Yesterday, 7:40 AM

Poll: » The New Gate Episode 6 Discussion

Stark700 - May 18

32 by Moias »»
Jun 8, 1:22 PM

Poll: » The New Gate Episode 5 Discussion

Stark700 - May 11

28 by Moias »»
Jun 8, 12:16 PM

» Is this just another SAO clone?

did4375 - Jun 2

33 by GunSniperN7 »»
Jun 8, 12:10 PM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
Keep track of your anime easily by creating your own list.
Sign Up Login