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May 8, 2009 3:55 PM
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I cannot watch Riku scary move, huhuu.
Nov 10, 2009 12:11 PM
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So is Riku going to gain some fighting abilities now and will Saya join up with Red Shield again to fight against Diva or will there be a 3-way struggle...
Jul 20, 2010 2:39 AM
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I'm surprised now, really! Is Riku now become a Chevalier? It's truly unexpeced~
Oct 7, 2010 7:17 PM
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Yeah... and I think Kai will join Red Shield too... Anyways, good ending for the "first season".
Oct 25, 2010 3:45 PM
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i hate how saya is so weak against diva as of now >_< when will she become stronger!!
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Mar 23, 2011 6:34 PM
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I had a feeling something would happen to Riku for a while, ever since he was the only human able to hear Diva's song (interesting how he seemed delicious to her while David and others who couldn't didn't... but I guess Kai kinda proves that wrong :p) I didn't however expect Saya to change him--it looked so painful for both of them. But now at least she has a Chevalier besides Haji to help her-- Diva has too many xD

I also can't wait for Saya to regain her full strength and memories--why did she forget everything when Diva seems to remember everything perfectly? Diva seems to have more abilities too and she just woke up... she's going to make for an interesting villain :)
Mar 23, 2011 9:13 PM
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i wonder if taking riku to HQ is such a good idea now. O_o
Aug 1, 2011 1:43 AM
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I suspect that Saya's lack of memories and Diva's retention may have something to do with the five chevaliers who act on Diva's behalf. Their operation and care of Diva looked a lot more high tech and managed than emerging from the cocoon into an Okinawan cafe. (Nothing against George who was a loving parent figure, but recovering memories quickly might take a bit more.)

I wonder if Joel was running a nurturing experiment? "Let's see what happens if we raise one of these girls in a loving environment with every advantage and lock the other in isolation in a cage." We actually know that treatment usually results in a lack of empathy (for example Victorique's initial flat emotional state in Gosick). (and that applies for real life as well as anime)
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Aug 25, 2011 7:45 PM
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I feel sorry for Solomon. He truly wishes for this conflict to end; but neither side will wield.

I wonder if Kai is going to become a Chevalier as well. He's the odd one out among his siblings now.
Jan 22, 2013 2:33 PM

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I was so stupid to think that Diva will be an interesting character...She's just an average annoying psycho bitch like always.

Apr 9, 2013 1:02 PM

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im kinda getting the feeling that kai might die before this show is over. im probably wrong but thats just what im thinking at this point in time.

Diva is kind of a weirdo but i like her haha
Dec 7, 2013 3:31 AM

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5/5

The issue between Diva and Saya opens, in addition to the problems highlighted, a boundless landscape of possibilities, this makes the plot and also the narrative of these benefits.
Drawing sufficient, but a few blows, I expected a lot more, but the twist with Riku has left me puzzled. Thanks to that, I do not give a rating lower.
Kai becomes increasingly miserable, all will the good of Saya, then leave them alone like a dog in a corner! In the face of the love they feel for her! ^ ^ "
Aug 1, 2014 8:02 PM
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I always knew something bad was going to riku but... damn i too was struggling whether saya should turn him into a chavalier.. like was it the right thing to do to regain her little brother? wasn't it a bit selfish of kai to ask saya to do that? but i guess it was to get more time with him. but what about kai in the future? he'll keep getting old wehile poor riku stays the little brother.. literally.
well at least he'll get cool powers.. right?
Aug 2, 2014 3:19 PM

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Saya released Diva in the past. She must feel guilty for everything that happened because of that.

Damn, it was obvious as hell that shooting Diva won't do a thing. Why Saya didn't jump then, when Diva was hanging her head backwards?

And they didn't answered yet what's with Haji's hand. Apparently Solomon can change his hand into a weapon as he desires. Why Haji always has that monster hand?

Kai: "Riku's my one and only brother! If he dies, Ill be all alone!". Well, that was... harsh. He's saying Saya is not his family anymore. And by the way, this time the blood feeding kiss felt awkward.
Dec 1, 2015 4:29 AM

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Rik is not chevalier material, he can't become a badass just by drinking Saya's blood. It's interesting, though: monster chiroptera appear from Diva's blood they made into a drug. How come she has chevalier? I believe, only Saya can make them. Or not everyone can survive vampire blood. So Rik is risking to turn into a monster.
rodac said:
I wonder if Joel was running a nurturing experiment? "Let&#039;s see what happens if we raise one of these girls in a loving environment with every advantage and lock the other in isolation in a cage." We actually know that treatment usually results in a lack of empathy (for example Victorique&#039;s initial flat emotional state in Gosick). (and that applies for real life as well as anime)

I thought as much. But you don't need experiments to know it will result in problems, so that Joel was digging his own grave.
Saya becoming lonely with Kai no longer seeing her as human and his family. She basicaly has only Haji by her side. But Diva & Ko are going to kill her too, so it's not a choice for Saya anymore. Humans are indeed using her and that kind of tragic given Saya's empathy, she learned from being with Haji when he was human.
It's not just difference in upbringing between Saya and Diva.
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Dec 2, 2015 6:55 AM

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i think diva only likes the blood of younger men - if you see, she claims david and lewis wouldn't taste good, but yet she went for riku and seemed like she wanted kai as well

so now not only do we an incredibly strong vampire, we have a pedophiliac one as well

lovely >.<
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burbels said:
Rik is not chevalier material, he can't become a badass just by drinking Saya's blood. It's interesting, though: monster chiroptera appear from Diva's blood they made into a drug. How come she has chevalier? I believe, only Saya can make them. Or not everyone can survive vampire blood. So Rik is risking to turn into a monster.
rodac said:
I wonder if Joel was running a nurturing experiment? "Let&#039;s see what happens if we raise one of these girls in a loving environment with every advantage and lock the other in isolation in a cage." We actually know that treatment usually results in a lack of empathy (for example Victorique&#039;s initial flat emotional state in Gosick). (and that applies for real life as well as anime)

I thought as much. But you don't need experiments to know it will result in problems, so that Joel was digging his own grave.
Saya becoming lonely with Kai no longer seeing her as human and his family. She basicaly has only Haji by her side. But Diva & Ko are going to kill her too, so it's not a choice for Saya anymore. Humans are indeed using her and that kind of tragic given Saya's empathy, she learned from being with Haji when he was human.
It's not just difference in upbringing between Saya and Diva.


True, but from a pure empirical kind of research, remember, they're not human, and so testing to see if they have the same responses as humans when subjected with similar circumstances might be why it occured. Although, the original joel might have kept one of the girls in a good state and then carried out experiements of all kinds on Diva kept in the tower, that way Saya wouldn't end up disliking him or traumatized by having her body cut open whilst she was still awake etc. It's also important to remember that she's the product of that treatment and.. just like saya was when she woke up, is most likely a bit odd in the head right now compared to how she normally is.
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Best episode yet. I love Diva, she's such a troll. She's almost innocent in her cruelty, like he thinks everything is a big fun joke. Glad to see some drama with Riku. I'm a little sick of knowing Haji will jump in at the last minute when Saya's in a tough spot. I like him being involved but, two seasons in Saya should be a better fighter.
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Diva is hot. :D Also, rip Riku, but heyyy you are immortal npw.
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Does anyone have an idea why Diva is much more powerful than Saya and why Saya lost most of her memories over the years but Diva didn't, although they are sisters?

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