Are newcomer edgy anime fans not edgelords but actually normies?

@LoveYourSmile
I dropped the anime before I got to any blood or rape. I still don't understand what it is I'm supposed to like about Berserk, aside from the art.

While I'm not that much familiar with various subreddits or Reddit as a whole, I recall there are two big communities dedicated to Berserk. One of them is dead serious about this manga, and the other one is just focusing on more chilled way of enjoying it. They are two sides of one coin. However, from my experience, I found the latter group as way better to talk about Berserk than the former. You could laugh and have a nice chat, instead of feeling as if you walked on shattered glass, because someone might not feel good to hear that there are important scenes with dark elements crucial to either the lore or characters in a dark fantasy story.

Many of them, at least from what I noticed from lurking both subreddits for a while, are just fooling around and trolling. They see how the other subreddit gets triggered by that jokes (I heard about people punished for mentioning controversial scenes without being 100% serious; dunno if that's true, because I'm not familiar with Reddit), so they proceed with triggering folks who are taking Berserk too seriously. Not to defend one or another group, like I said before, I think they represent two sides of that "Berserk fan" coin. One is dead serious, the other one is extremely chilled.

If you are referring to his Le Figaro interview from 2019, then he mostly said he was guessing whether such scenes were necessary at the time he drew them. He was also talking about how the industry was back then and how it was during the time the interview was made.

While we can't be sure and probably we will never be sure, since Miura-sensei is no longer alive so he won't be able to elaborate on that subject, I think he might've had a weird fetish connected to such stuff. In some of his other manga, written back when he was still a young author, you could see similar scenes with sexually assaulted female characters. They looked like Casca in some cases, which makes me think that Miura-sensei perhaps liked short-haired women. Too bad he had to put them in scenes involving sexual assault. Years later his preferences changed and he began putting lolicon stuff into his works, Berserk included, but not only. For instance, there was that one disgusting "golden shower" scene, appearing out of the blue, in Gigantomachia.

Yeah, that's the certified classic. xD People who think that forced scenes depicting controversial and disturbing stuff are the very essence of dark fantasy. Sure, a lot of dark fantasy stories have them, I don't deny that. But if they appear out of place, feel extremely forced and their sole purpose is shock value comparable to a ghost jumping outta wardrobe, then they belong to the same group as they'd belong if they appeared, even if toned down, in any other genre. I mean the group of bad, low-quality writing, lol.

@Lucifrost

im not saying you should read it but you dropped it extremely early then. miura was still in his "idk what I'm doing" stages and most people aren't really into the black swordsman arc. when people r talking about the good stuff in berserk they're almost never talking about that arc. probably why the golden age arc is the most popular cuz that's when the story actually starts.

@Kenzolo-folk
I was told the anime I dropped adapts the golden age arc and not the black swordsman arc.

@Lucifrost
oh sorry, i thought you were talking about the manga. Are you talking about the movies or the '97 version?

@Kenzolo-folk
The older anime is the one I tried. But does it matter? I heard they're both based on golden age.

@Lucifrost
the movies dont have the blackswordsman arc but the older one does. the blackswordsman arc is the first episode and u said u dropped it pretty early so I was just assuming u were still in that arc.

@inim Whoa, no need to go into overdrive. This topic is about being edgy, not wedgy.

Us retro edge lords are a little rougher around edges than the noobs :)

https://myanimelist.net/anime/2346/Koroshiya_1_The_Animation__Episode_0
https://myanimelist.net/anime/2359/Choujin_Densetsu_Urotsukidouji_Movie
https://myanimelist.net/anime/3064/Kizuoibito
https://myanimelist.net/anime/2775/Genocyber
https://myanimelist.net/anime/1342/Violence_Jack__Jigoku_Gai-hen
https://myanimelist.net/anime/2981/Chika_Gentou_Gekiga__Shoujo_Tsubaki

Enjoy.

@inim Checked out Kizuoibito, expected them to pull an Angel Cop and go full /pol/, but it was just the CIA. Kind of disappointed.

@LenRea I'd argue the main "attraction" in Kizuoibito are his grlfriends. Pattern is: he rapes them, they enjoy it, get under his spell, and eventually sacrify their life for him. Enjoyable rape put to the extreme. The scene with Misty and the ship's steering wheel is really hot, if you are into that fetish.

Do you by a chance know a video with a fine cut of these scenes? I don't really want to dive deep into the genre, but I don't mind to check a few scenes for educational purposes.

There are no edgelords on MAL btw...or are there??

What is "edgy" anyway? I'm still not sure if I understand this term correct. Is it about trying hard to look cool and dramatic while exaggerating everything to a comical degree? I assume it's something like AOT, right?

@DesuMaiden I personally think you should get arrested for your crimes against humanity btw... or should you??

wow, what a schizo-esque thread lmao

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