Spice and Wolf (light novel)
| It looks fine. Nothing incredible, nothing terrible. Don't see where those "deformed characters" are. They are perfectly normal. At worst, I would say the credits might indicate that production is being rough: four chief animation directors, 12 regular ADs, and 5 assistant ADs only for the second episode, but nothing looks too glaringly bad yet. |
OongbuhApr 8, 9:26 PM
| I somewhat agree. However, the animation is not exactly bad, rather pretty average. But with what are we comparing? Frieren? |
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| What is going to make or break this remake isn't the animation. It's going to be the direction and how they bring the interactions between Lawrence and Holo from text into these 25 episodes. And in that aspect, this remake is already winning. |
| It seems new Holo looks somewhat less mature/more youthful than the original, but it's not a bad thing because she still is incredibly seductive. |
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| Yeah i'm not a fan, between the horrid cgi, some of the shittier backgrounds (especially the one in the first episode with the harvest festival, which was not only hard to watch the first time, but then also became increasingly horrid to watch due to all the following flashbacks from that scene, you'd think they'd put more effort in if they're gonna use it so much!) and some of the clearly low budget scenes with horrid linework and deformed bits, the art's really falling apart hard. More than that, the new style is bad, i don't really care if its closer to the original or not (not to mention 'close' is still not 'similar', far from it in this case in fact, so its pointless to argue how it makes it more faithful or better, its still TOO different from the original), the way its done is really damn sloppy, the more modern tech and drawing methods like digital gradient shading all over is the only thing saving it from looking like a complete trainwreck. I don't care if people think its 'ok' or 'fine', this series DESERVES BETTER, especially with how random no name stuff or stuff that's not nearly as good or popular as spice and wolf keeps getting better treatment. |
Reply to Chronon
I somewhat agree. However, the animation is not exactly bad, rather pretty average. But with what are we comparing? Frieren?
| @Chronon Novel has the same art style so y'all Spice and Wolf fans are saying the original Holo's is average? I just don't get these fans, the first adaptation is great and all but don't be blinded by nostalgia please. The remake has waaaay better aspects as well. |
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| Very mediocre but for a series like this, not the most important factor about it. |
Reply to muzlee01
It looks perfectly fine. People who are complaining about it are high on nostalgia. The original anime didn't look better, not even for its time.
| @muzlee01 I 100% agree. The original had some decent animation for it's characters and such. But even for 2008 the background art was pretty bad and it's quality varied a bit much in S1 tho S2 was maybe a bit better. Given the quality of animation we're getting here I'm more than happy with the remake. So far the animation likely isn't gonna be super impressive or be the strongest point in this show but it is certainly NOT bad. Besides considering what Spice and Wolf is the animation isn't the main selling point anyways. I'm also releived they decided against doing "fan service" and such. I would've been disappointed with this remake had they added more "details" to it than the original and I was actually worried they would given this studio's other works yikes! So long as the animation and art stays pretty consistent with what I've seen so far and doesn't drop off massively I'm looking at you here poor Helck adaption I'm gonna be eating really good this season. |
Is it "your typical Shounen" level? If not, so the art/animation is not BAD. Maybe meh, but not bad. |
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| The animation is very good, I would say it is easily above average. The design is beautiful and much more faithful to the original. The animation is much better than the old version, and that's noticeable. The fluidity of the characters in mundane scenes is very good. It's just CG that isn't good, but it isn't used much either. Honestly, few studios would do a better job than this. |
| Love the story and worldbuilding but always despised the old artstyle. I'm really happy its getting a remake, it can end up as a potential 9/10 for me now. |
| It looks okay and while I think Spice and Wolf is popular enough to warrant an Adaptation that looks a lot better, who is to say anyone else would've actually picked it up even less give it 25eps without rushed pacing. If this is the quality we're getting for a full adaptation I can make peace with that since everything else about this adaptation is rock solid as of now and since the Source is an all time great the end result will also be great with it's current trajectory. But if this doesn't adapt further than the original I will gladly just return to that. |
| baahh. |
| The animation in the first episode looked very good, but in the second episode there is a noticeable decline, unfortunately, the most important thing is that the story is good |
| It's very average. Some shots look fine, some good in the first episode like the first couple minutes. But there are zoomed out shots used that look a bit shit, visuals used in heavy dialogue that look a bit iffy at times, weak looking backgrounds, poor CGI at times, a lot of the anime looking way too bright and anemic looking (especially with Holo at times) and fluidity in parts looking a bit inconsistent. Even the original anime to be fair was not perfect whatsoever in this department but for 2024, it looks more noticeable here. To be fair with Passione, I didn't expect a masterpiece visually from it given the track record. My expectations in fact, were really low. This adaptation in two episodes visually has had plenty of issues but I wouldn't say it looks terrible and irredeemable, just a bit low budget. In the sequences that have mattered, they have done a decent enough job like the first 2 minutes and Holo's transformation in episode 1 to give it a bit of a shot. At least the content and characters are there to make sure the anime even at its ugliest, has redeemable stuff to it to keep viewers somewhat interested. |
| The CGI-ed animals look terrible, but I can only blame the animators who didn't even go outside to observe things. |
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Reply to LeonhartAugust
A massive downgrade. Why didn't they bring the character designer from the 2000s version, he's still active.
| @LeonhartAugust Bringing Kazuya Kuroda back wouldn't necessarily mean the designs would look exactly like the 2008 anime. Even taking aside the obvious point of his style changing after a decade, you have to take in account the changes in coloring/composite that have drastically changed over the years. |
| Jeez the old animation style was hella generic for its time. So far animation is great yall just can't move forward. |
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| Its sad that it was passione that have adapted this. They have never had a successful project before and I am worried this will become like their other projects. If it was cloverworks it would've been so much better |
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| I didn't even notice the cg... any complaints about it I've seen are more nitpicks then anything. Also people learn differences between animation and artstyle please (artstyle looks great in both versions imo, prefer some of the colouring on Holo here though) |
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| The modernize of it of course is going to hit different than the classic version of course. It's still good though. |
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