Vinland Saga
| He reminds me of Zuko, actually. Both are dumb kids with tunnel vision, Evo strayed from proper path and are in desperate need of guidance. |
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| Thorfinn literally goes through the "Guts phase". Just like Guts, he struggles to understand the meaning of life, and in the future and this is where his character development really shines. Thorfinn being a flawed person and an annoying kid throughout the prologue, is what makes his development in Farmland Saga so impressive. I used to hate Thorfinn as a child, then he became one of my top favorite characters of all time. Truly peak development. |
ardaljebeli said: zero_uchiha said: I personally think thorfinn is not even in the same tier with musashi let alone being better than guts Don't get me wrong, I really like the character development of thorfinn but being better than guts and musashi is objectively wrong I've read Vagabond up until kojiro Arc, and I don't really like musashi either, but that's the point coz I'm sure he's gonna get to improve as a person. it's the same with thorfinn, and he deserves to be in the same tier as musashi. I think they're mistaking being badass with being a good character. Neither Guts nor Musashi were incredible characters in the first arcs, they grow over time and become the pillars of manga we have today. Originally tho they're just like Thorfinn, nothing more than stereotypical strong dudes. |
| I haven't read much of Berserk and I haven't read Vagabond at all yet, so I can't speak on Guts and Musashi's development. But Thorfinn 100% deserves to be in the upper echelons of great and well developed main characters. His transformation as a person throughout the story is some of the best character writing I've seen. |
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DaichiTengri said: StaleNut said: I think they're mistaking being badass with being a good character. Neither Guts nor Musashi were incredible characters in the first arcs, they grow over time and become the pillars of manga we have today. Originally tho they're just like Thorfinn, nothing more than stereotypical strong dudes. I would definitely disagree on Guts not being great since the beginning, guts was a very well written character in the golden age arc and not just a strong character. Concerning Musashi i have a bias, putting that aside i can see how he may not be the best written early on. My take is that in the story as a whole you see him grow to become, in my opinion, one of the best characters. He goes from a young adult who only cares about winning to finding his own goals and meaning to life. The point of this post was to see what manga readers have yo say about Thorfinns character development. Because in the prologue he’s just simply not enjoyable. I felt no emotion towards him. Thors and askeladd on the other hand were fantastic. Hoping my opinion on Thorfinn changes. I’ll probably start reading after season 2 finishes airing. Guts in the first arc of the manga is literally Thorfinn. We see growth in the golden age arc, which comes after the first arc of the series, just like Farmland Saga. And if you liked Thors, then you're going to love Thorfinn. He follows his fathers footsteps. |
dockywoc said: DaichiTengri said: With the arrival of season 2, I have seen a lot more posts about Thorfinn obviously. what really strikes me are the post saying he's a better MC than Musashi and Guts. I personally have no problems with people voicing or having an opinion, I would just like to know why people think this. my view on Thorfinn is purely based on the anime and I haven't been impressed with him, Askeladd easily stole season 1. For those that have read the manga, does Thorfinn really get that good to be compared to Guts and Musashi? What im trying to get at is that Guts and Musashi were great since chapter 1. I understand that we saw Thorfinn grow up but it just felt so fast that i never really grew a connection with him from child to current anime. Based on responses I might read ahead if he truly becomes a Goated MC. who the hell are guts and musashi 2 of the greatest mc's in fiction. Guts is from Berserk, Musashi's from Vagabond. |
| I don't know if he's better but there's something definitively heart wrenching watching a kid descend rather than having such things as a flashback to discover later |
| Prologue Thorfinn felt like Black Swordsman Guts and “Shinmen Takezo” Musashi. They seem like extremely one dimensional characters with killing as their only purpose in life. However, I personally dont really put Thorfinn in the same tier as Musashi and Guts, primarily due to the fact that Thorfinn’s development happens at a very fast pace in contrast to Musashi and Guts, both of whom developed as the arcs progressed. Nonetheless, all three of them are amazing characters in their own right so there really isn’t a need to compare them all imo. |
| As a non-manga reader, I don't see the hype and I probably never will tbh. Musashi and Guts are goated tho |
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4nders said: Read the manga. I still have Musashi > Thorfinn, but for me Thorfinn is definitely better than Guts. have you ever read Berserk? you're throwing out best written mc of all time. |
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4nders said: Yes, I'm caught up with all three of them. I'm not saying Guts is a bad character—I like him a lot—I just find Thorfinn and Musashi to be better. If you say so maybe you're right, I'm caught up with Berserk and Vagabond only and I'm in currently Eastern expedition arc, I'll read continue after watching this season. |
El_Professor07Feb 10, 2023 8:26 AM
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| i have read all 3 mangas imo - musashi>guts>thorfinn don't get me wrong both are top-tier characters but in terms development i think this the perfect ranking |
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