| I finished Apocrypha lol and thought it was very underwhelming because of the garbage plot and horrible MC. Haven't bothered to start this one yet, but Nero looks good. Is it worth a watch if I bothered watching something on the level of quality like Apocrypha? |
SlowAnimeWatcher said: I finished Apocrypha lol and thought it was very underwhelming because of the garbage plot and horrible MC. Haven't bothered to start this one yet, but Nero looks good. Is it worth a watch if I bothered watching something on the level of quality like Apocrypha? It's difficult to compare both because they're quite different from each other despite both being Fate series. Apocrypha is a Battle Royale-like Holy Grail War action centered anime with a(subjective) bland MC, Extra by itself was more of a mystery/put pieces together to find what's happening with A Holy Grail War that is a 1x1 per floor in a monster of the week kinda way with an Amnesiac MC trying to find out what they forgot, that is the game, Last Encore is even more of a mystery because despite what Nasu said about it being newcomers-friendly, you need to have the information from playing the game to realize that everything is different from usual and something happened to f*ck everything over. Otherwise the anime will appear as a rushed, confusing plot with new unknown characters that get killed off after 2 episodes of their introduction, and you'll think the only think worth is Red Saber with her edgy Protagonist Master. Contrary to what popular(?) opinions may say(mostly loud angry ones) , Extra was made as perfect fit for Shaft's style of animation and they even made the OP for Extra/CCC, so even if people might complain, it would never work for Ufotable's style because of it's difference from the main series, (most)fans of Extra were expecting Shaft to do it and weren't surprised at all. Bottom of line, fans of the Extra game will mostly be OK with Last Encore or gladly enjoy it, some might not be that satisfied with animation or choice of main servant too(or even the Male/female MC nonsense). Newcomers will probably only enjoy IF: They either have curiosity about Red Saber; Are intrigued by the mystery behind the story after being told of details from fans(or figuring out on their own); Or they really like Shaft and have no(major) problem with it's way of animation and exposition on-screen. Just remember, EXTRA is NOT focused on Action like other Fate series, LAST ENCORE even less so. |
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| It's so different from Apocrypha that it's a bit hard to compare. For one, unlike Apocrypha, the Servants are NOT the focus of this. They're secondary characters. The focus lies on the humans, the setting and the plot. Not the fights between Servants. Personally, I'd is a huge improvement over Apocrypha. It has far more detailed and interesting setting, a more of a mystery plot keeps me coming back each week, a much better and different MC. And if you like the looks of Nero, you're in for a treat, because they capitalize on her looks a lot. You'll get a lot of nice shots of her. The biggest problem will be that, as I just said, fights between Servants are not important in this. And since fights are not important, you get a lot of dialogue. Unlike Apocrypha, where most of the Servants survived until the end, this one kills Servants off easily. If two Servants are fighting, one of them is likely going to die. Fights generally don't end without consequences in LE. If you hate dialogue, just want action, this isn't for you. Personally, I like it. If you do give it a try, a fair warning. Pick your subs carefully. This one isn't picked by Crunchyroll, so it won't get official subs until it ends, when Netflix releases it. If you aren't willing to wait until it finishes airing and Netflix releases it, you'll need to pick fansubs. Wrong subs, like FMFansubs, can completely ruin the experience. For the first three episode, go only with Chyuu. After that, either APEX or Chyuu will do. |
Hate_and_RageMar 5, 2018 4:34 AM
| It is as good as Apocrypha. I liked both a lot |
| It's worse than Apocrypha for sure. |
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| So far I like Last Encore better. The mystery aspect is very refreshing and despite not playing the game I can keep up with the plot. |
| If you think Apocrypha was garbage you won't like this one. dont waste ur time seriously Personally Its as good as Apocrypha for me |
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| @Kanon191 u laid out a great comparison for the two, so I got a few questions. How is the main character in Encore? Is he characterized well? Please tell me he isn't super bland. Also, how's the dialogue in the show? Since you said there was a lot of dialogue, I would hope that it isn't too boring/dumb, so I can enjoy it. I like Shaft's style a lot and the mystery aspect sounds pretty intriguing, so I will probably pick it up once I'm done some other anime. |
| If you like Shaft's style I think you'll like Fate/Extra. I'm enjoying so far, it's really different from Apocrypha. |
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SlowAnimeWatcher said: I finished Apocrypha lol and thought it was very underwhelming because of the garbage plot and horrible MC. Haven't bothered to start this one yet, but Nero looks good. Is it worth a watch if I bothered watching something on the level of quality like Apocrypha? na don't watch it. The action in Encore is really bad, and Shaft seems to not care about putting effort into them Nero is literally the only good thing about the show so far. The other MC is as bad as Sieg from Apocrypha. But with Apocrypha we had lots of other great characters |
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| I was also underwhelmed by Apocrypha, but Last Encore doesn't even feel like Fate. The story is needlessly convoluted and doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. The whole virtual setting feels just weird and the action is also pretty bad. The MC is plain boring and his servant is just so annoying. I'm basically only watching it for the enemy servants, who unfortunately don't get a lot of screen time. |
SlowAnimeWatcher said: @Kanon191 u laid out a great comparison for the two, so I got a few questions. How is the main character in Encore? Is he characterized well? Please tell me he isn't super bland. Also, how's the dialogue in the show? Since you said there was a lot of dialogue, I would hope that it isn't too boring/dumb, so I can enjoy it. I like Shaft's style a lot and the mystery aspect sounds pretty intriguing, so I will probably pick it up once I'm done some other anime. Ok, I'll try to answer without giving any major spoilers. I'll start by saying that the MC in the game is a self insert(hence the choose gender complaints), his/hers main characteristic is to make the player feel like they are in the world of fate(it was advertised as such as well), although there are some adaptations such as manga, drama cds that gave the male one a "bland"(subjective) personality, but that is actually an important point because , the MC of the anime is very different from the game, the game one had only two priorities, survival and recover their memories, the anime is also amnesiac but he doesn't care or want to recover them, instead he is filled with hatred and an unexplained obsession to climb to the top floor, he also was devoid of emotions at the beginning but as episodes went on he started to show sadness, sympathy, etc. There are a lot of dialogue as this is centered on the mystery behind what's happening and it does references the original game a lot, it isn't dumb but it might be confusing without proper knowledge(knowing basic information such as codecasts, master command seals,etc.), if you've already been exposed to Shaft's way then it only depends if the lore/story of Extra manages to keep your interest. Since you like the mystery aspect there's a chance you might stick with it, but if it gets too confused I advise you to read a brief synopsis of the contents of the original game to get an idea of the world as it is quite different of other fate series, also ask around, fans will explain it better since the anime kinda expects you to be a least familiarized with Extra so it will not spoon-feed you unless it's related to new content. |
Kanon191Mar 5, 2018 3:49 PM
| @LeSponge I admit that how I talked about Apocrypha was a lot more negative than I actually rated it, which was a 6. There were some great fight scenes in the second half (mainly the 1v1 fist fight scene and the final sword fight). Also the soundtrack was very good. The main theme grew on me a lot. |
| Apocrypha has good fight at least. |
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| It is difficult to compare them as they are very different in tone, moral of the story and characters. But the basic difference: -Apocrypha anime follows the story of Apocrypha LN with some 80% accuracy. -Last Encore serves as a sequel to Extra game and prequel to Extella game. So while you can watch Apocryhpa from episode 1 and enjoy the development of story and characters here you have to know details from the game to truly enjoy it. And while Apocrypha has big fights ( it;s 7 vs 7 with additional 2 Rulers after all ) Extra is limited to one fight with 2 Servants per "level" if you will. So my advise is - play Extra game before watching this. |
| It's miles worse than Apocrypha. Don't even bother. |
| Apocrypha was dumb but the story at least made sense and the fights were good, we also Astolfo and Mordred around to carry the show. Extra has Umu, that's it, that's it's one redeeming quality. So my advise is - play Extra game before watching this. My incentive to play extra has gone down since starting this anime. |
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