How highly regarded is this route compared to the other two ? What makes it different?

laidellent said:
This ardwolf guy thinks FMAB is shit.You can make your own conclusions from that.Dont bother with him.He is one of those part time trolls that anyways gets submeged within the depths of time.

Neither him watching the show nor him throwing around buzzwords to defend his "opinions" is going to actually change the viewpoints of those who actually bothered watching the movie or are going to eventually watch it.There are a lot of Fate fans,also a lot of them are before 2011 if you know what I mean; and him not watching anything will not affect the movie whatsoever.

This thread has just turned into OP continuously using strawman fallacy to keep on re-iterating the same point again and again without actually bothering to check whats written on the other side.That is not a discussion.Hope mods close this soon.He has got enough attention for a day or two.

Aardwolf94 said:


I think FMA:B is overrated, I like the original series. Of course just because I don't like an anime you do I'm a troll. How fucking stupid is that?

Never said it would affect the movie..So its only a discussion if I change my opinion and see how "wrong" I was? I could say the same about F/SN fans who are stubborn as hell.

This thread has turned into insecure F/SN fans getting butthurt and defending their shitty series even though that wasn't even the damm topic. Try harder next time.

laidellent said:


Just look back at the no. of buzzwords you used in that particular paragraph.A major point of any discussion is the moment you start using them you loose all credibilty.

So yes you are just further validating my point and behaving like that is what would I expect from a guy who doesnt even understand what Zero is about.

But please keep on your charade.You have a lot of time to spare it seems.

Aardwolf94 said:


Says the guy who said I was a troll because I dislike one of his favourite anime, talking about credibility here makes you look stupid.

And I have explained my points multiple times, its not like I just used "buzzwords" and just left it at that. So what was F/Z actually about, enlighten me since you see to have understood it so much better. Just saying it without any explanation again makes you look silly.

laidellent said:


I have got no hesitation in calling a spade a spade.This is not some random arbitary comment about you.Every single post of yours indicate that you actually have no intention in legitamely discussing the points but rather you would re iterate the same points time and again despite people pointing out the counter points.
Thats not how a discussion works.Thats why I will not indulge you like the last guy.

Props to you to atleast try hard enough to write paragraphs about the same thing more than once I guess.

Btw,this isn't even my favorite anime.Secondly,you should watch more anime before jumping into conclusions about a series and yes this is coming from a guy who has watched 10 times atleast more anime than you.I love Zero but I have got a huge issue with people like you who talk out of their asses based on their own misguided interpretation.If you think I am putting on an air of entitlement,I am pretty much justified given I have gone through the trouble of going through the source materials in both cases unlike you who has just seen a facet and made your own conclusions.I have the wholistic picture while you have made your own bubble and you refuse to listen.Why should I bother discussing it then?

ssjokg said:
The discussion so far:

"Shirou whines about his hard life"
Me:"When did Shirou whine?"
"Shirou whines"

Me:"Kiritsugu wants to save everyone"
"No, Kiritsugu was killing the few to save the many"
Me:"So why is he in the war"
"To stop doing that and save everyone".
Me:"..."

Clearly the fault lies with the hardcore fans and FSN.

laidellent said:
Its not about you changing your mind but its more about you being obstinate enough to not pay heed to anyone else or their opinions.Its ok.VNs never stand on its own given the way they have been structured.Its much easier to adapt manga or LN which Zero is.

I inculded the source materials because it gives me a bigger perspective of what I am talking about.

Like Usagi Drop is one of the best anime out there but that doesnt prevent it from having one of the shittiest endings in manga ever and that would play a part in my final assessment of the series irrespective of the anime because I like to see the eventual outcome of something I start and dont jump into conclusions like some people.But maybe thats just me.

ssjokg said:
Who are you kidding? The main stuff of the series are still the same thry dont just do a 180 ro satisfy people that didnt get shit in ubw and fate.And zero.

You already have a fixed opinion on both series.

ssjokg said:

>the romance with Saber was cringeworthy and degraded her character

How can something that came first degrade a character?

Mickdrew said:


Reminds me of this little gem:

I mean, honestly, is this what intelligence has been reduced to?

It can only be said so many times: If you don't like Saber in Fate/Stay Night, then you don't like Saber. If you're judging her based on Fate/Zero, then you don't know who she really is.

Same logic applies to FSN vs FZ as a whole.

Aardwolf94 said:


Wrong, that means you like F/Z Saber but not F/SN Saber. Two different writers were here at work and its obvious.

Also thats a good review that I agree with 100%, I suppose instead of "original" (since as much as I dislike F/SN Saber she is the original) he should have said F/Z Saber but thats about it.

Aardwolf94 said:
just accept different opinions and dont force your opinions on everyone

Mickdrew said:

If you prefer a simplified character with dimensions ripped out, then by all means like FZ Saber.

Aardwolf94 said:
And I guess if you like her turning into yet another cheap love interest who only develops because of a stupid naive highschool boy (via talking with him and fucking him) then sure like F/SN Saber

To each their own.

Mickdrew said:

This is why DEEN is complete shit

ssjokg said:


Kiritsugu changed a bit because he loved, fucked and had a child with a 2 year old but it is Saber and the teenager that are bad.

Zerofags my friend.You can always hear the most retarded stuff from them.

Aardwolf94 said:


Still barking I see? Damm your butthurt is really on a next level, how insecure are VN tards?

And you continue to try and put down F/Z just because you are salty of the F/SN bashing, without much success I have to say (The Kiritsugu Irisviel romance is better than the cheap cliche romances in F/SN). Although I'm wondering now why you even gave it a 10, at this point thats rather foolish.

elTaka said:
to OP, if you dont like fate and ubw then dont watch heaven's feel. its better that way

Botato said:
It doesn't matter if it sucks or not, you're already too biased against anything not FZ and with the way that shitfest went down (aka a stubborness contest) I highly doubt you will ever give anything Fate related a fair chance from now on thanks to this thread (not that Apo or Kaleid are that good to begin with, but anyway).

Out of the 3 routes HF has the most connections/plot points related to FZ directly, and is arguably the darkest route among the 3. As far as how it's regarded by fans most are torn between it and UBW as the best route, but HF has a slight edge iirc.

None of that matters though, because like it or not it still has the exact same shit you constantly complain about: Shirou, Highschool students, SoL, etc. Literally the only thing that might "get fixed" for you is Kirei... And that's assuming they actually adapt the damn thing faithfully.

ssjokg said:
i dont hate zero at all.I hate all the retarded fans that think they know the story and characters but they cant even remember simple stuff correctly.

Also Iri lives solely for Kiritsugu.So...meh I know that explaining further is of no use.

Alter_A said:


I'm amazed you put up with the dumbass for so long. Just reading his posts gives me a headache.

Aardwolf94 said:


F/SN tards logic: "Anyone who doesn't like my favourite porn game and favourite obnoxious protagonist is a dumb ass"

Thanks for yet another worthless reply from a butthurt F/SN fan, fucking pathetic.

Alter_A said:


Keep talking secondary fag. You ain't any different from the countless other AOs parroting the same shit though.

Aardwolf94 said:


Better be a secondary than a porn game fag. And you aren't any different from the other butthut VN readers that came to this thread either, what a silly fanbase!

Alter_A said:


Like I said, keep talking. It'll only show how much bullshit you're pulling out of your ass.
Anyone can see through you the moment you use the "porn game" card and the personal attacks on the fan base. Couple that with the attitude and vocabulary of a typical secondary fag so easily and often spotted around the net, and you might as well waving a sign written "Fuck You! Fight Me!".

Aardwolf94 said:


As if you didn't start "I'm amazed you put up with the dumbass for so long, Keep talking secondary fag". Your type is so hypocritical its ridiculous. Its fine as long as you use personal attacks but how dare others do it as well.

You are the one who made a worthless bait post because he got triggered so much by my posts. This discussion has been over for more than a week, yet you felt compelled to add your bullshit to it (which is the same old shit I have already seen) instead of answering the thread's question and now I'm the one "pulling bullshit out of my ass"? Lmao.

And I explained my points in detail before, not like I just said "porn game" and that was it. But of course you got butthurt by me bashing your precious visual novel.

Now excuse me I already wasted too much time on that other butthurt F/SN tard, don't want to waste more on another who also acts like an asshole just because people don't his favourite porn game and acts like a 12 year old in response.